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		<title>By: CHINA PROPOSES SPACE COLLABORATION WITH INDIA &#124; samir fahim</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHINA PROPOSES SPACE COLLABORATION WITH INDIA &#124; samir fahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nathan Nifong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Nifong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>redirecting more solar energy to earth that would not have otherwise hit earth will inevitably make it hotter. we need to put the things which consume the energy in space. (like datacenters)</description>
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		<title>By: Rochi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rochi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharp thnkniig! Thanks for the answer.</description>
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		<title>By: saberjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>saberjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The future lies in small eco-friendly units (fuel cells etc) that don&#039;t require a massive transmission infrastructure.</description>
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		<title>By: Khannea Suntzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khannea Suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the technology was tested and works. Sadly no cookie for you.</description>
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		<title>By: Khannea Suntzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khannea Suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, every solar watt we focus in to electricity (and that would not be heat, by definition) we wouldn&#039;t have to INCREDIBLY INEFFICIENTLY generate by burning the combustible stuff in our Earth layers. 

But just wait. Once the energy runs out, and the cars stop, and the food prices go up people will demand solutions NOW. And guess what, then we&#039;ll start burning coal coal coal. Or mining hydrates. Or building more crappy outdated nuclear power plants. And then you&#039;ll be gnashing your teeth we didn&#039;t have a more sensible alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, every solar watt we focus in to electricity (and that would not be heat, by definition) we wouldn&#8217;t have to INCREDIBLY INEFFICIENTLY generate by burning the combustible stuff in our Earth layers. </p>
<p>But just wait. Once the energy runs out, and the cars stop, and the food prices go up people will demand solutions NOW. And guess what, then we&#8217;ll start burning coal coal coal. Or mining hydrates. Or building more crappy outdated nuclear power plants. And then you&#8217;ll be gnashing your teeth we didn&#8217;t have a more sensible alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Khannea Suntzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khannea Suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.scoop.it/t/space-versus-oil</description>
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		<title>By: larhigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>larhigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of the what the neigh sayers think, this will happen--probably China or another Asian country will be the first to use it in spite of all the gnashing of teeth by the usual suspects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the what the neigh sayers think, this will happen&#8211;probably China or another Asian country will be the first to use it in spite of all the gnashing of teeth by the usual suspects.</p>
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		<title>By: IQ146</title>
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		<dc:creator>IQ146</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but in the real world, not your sci-fi fantasy one, we are at the turning point where our &#039;intelligence&#039; is being tested, do we continue to destroy the only world we will ever have, or let it all happen as we dream our sci-fi dreams of venturing out to colonise galaxies. It ain&#039;t gonna happen, there&#039;s a reason why so many technologies have developed astoundingly in the last forty years - think mobile phones, digital screens, computers, cameras - yet chemical rockets are still the only method of getting into orbit, and they were invented by the Chinese how many thousands of years ago? ALL we will achieve is orbitting satellites, the distances are too vast for any skin-encapsulated ego in a monkey brain to survive long enough to get anywhere else in space, that&#039;s if the radiation didn&#039;t fry us first. This is why so many people have no idea that the ecosystem is what sustains us, and we damage it at our peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but in the real world, not your sci-fi fantasy one, we are at the turning point where our &#8216;intelligence&#8217; is being tested, do we continue to destroy the only world we will ever have, or let it all happen as we dream our sci-fi dreams of venturing out to colonise galaxies. It ain&#8217;t gonna happen, there&#8217;s a reason why so many technologies have developed astoundingly in the last forty years &#8211; think mobile phones, digital screens, computers, cameras &#8211; yet chemical rockets are still the only method of getting into orbit, and they were invented by the Chinese how many thousands of years ago? ALL we will achieve is orbitting satellites, the distances are too vast for any skin-encapsulated ego in a monkey brain to survive long enough to get anywhere else in space, that&#8217;s if the radiation didn&#8217;t fry us first. This is why so many people have no idea that the ecosystem is what sustains us, and we damage it at our peril.</p>
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		<title>By: IQ146</title>
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		<dc:creator>IQ146</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe some scientists are so unconnected that they think that it&#039;s a good idea to beam energy into Earth from satellites when the major problem we are facing is global warming and the resultant catastrophic climate change we are now starting increasingly to experience. As humanity tries to think of ways of reducing our energy needs, and creating the energy by sustainable methods, these fantasists think that adding billions of watts to Earth is a good idea as they &#039;predict&#039; our energy consumption will continue to grow and grow, like we&#039;re spoiled kids who can&#039;t take our hands out of the cookie jar. Unbelievable. But if it&#039;s hi-tech, it has to be a good thing, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe some scientists are so unconnected that they think that it&#8217;s a good idea to beam energy into Earth from satellites when the major problem we are facing is global warming and the resultant catastrophic climate change we are now starting increasingly to experience. As humanity tries to think of ways of reducing our energy needs, and creating the energy by sustainable methods, these fantasists think that adding billions of watts to Earth is a good idea as they &#8216;predict&#8217; our energy consumption will continue to grow and grow, like we&#8217;re spoiled kids who can&#8217;t take our hands out of the cookie jar. Unbelievable. But if it&#8217;s hi-tech, it has to be a good thing, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Amara D. Angelica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amara D. Angelica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;efficient power transmission developments of Nikola Tesla, using Tesla coils, pulsed DC, and resonance he got more efficiency than the current wired grid&quot;

I&#039;m not aware of any peer-reviewed papers on this and any serious replication of his claimed results. From my investigation into the subject, Tesla wrote that anecdotal stuff as newspaper articles, and transmitting power through the Earth is highly inefficient, which is why the U.S. Navy abandoned Seafarer. I welcome any citations to the peer-reviewed science or engineering literature to counter that. Note that Tesla coils (which I have experimented with) generate nice indoor lightning, but have no known role in distributing power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;efficient power transmission developments of Nikola Tesla, using Tesla coils, pulsed DC, and resonance he got more efficiency than the current wired grid&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not aware of any peer-reviewed papers on this and any serious replication of his claimed results. From my investigation into the subject, Tesla wrote that anecdotal stuff as newspaper articles, and transmitting power through the Earth is highly inefficient, which is why the U.S. Navy abandoned Seafarer. I welcome any citations to the peer-reviewed science or engineering literature to counter that. Note that Tesla coils (which I have experimented with) generate nice indoor lightning, but have no known role in distributing power.</p>
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		<title>By: harleyborgais</title>
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		<dc:creator>harleyborgais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is cost prohibitive, not to mention unnecessary. 

Existing technologies make this redundant:
Howard Johnsons Magnetic motor
Stanley Meyers Water fuel cell
Paul Pantones GEET carburetor

...plus the standard wind, solar, and water power technologies

Then there are the more efficient power transmission developments of Nikola Tesla which he discovered just after inventing the 3-Phase AC power system we use now. It was wireless too, using Tesla coils, pulsed DC, and resonance he got more efficiency than the current wired grid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cost prohibitive, not to mention unnecessary. </p>
<p>Existing technologies make this redundant:<br />
Howard Johnsons Magnetic motor<br />
Stanley Meyers Water fuel cell<br />
Paul Pantones GEET carburetor</p>
<p>&#8230;plus the standard wind, solar, and water power technologies</p>
<p>Then there are the more efficient power transmission developments of Nikola Tesla which he discovered just after inventing the 3-Phase AC power system we use now. It was wireless too, using Tesla coils, pulsed DC, and resonance he got more efficiency than the current wired grid.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 08:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;radio waves spread like ripples...&quot; Isotropic (omindirectional) radiation (or close to it) is indeed emitted by omnidirectional antennas, but microwave engineers use highly directional antennas such as phased arrays and parabolic dishes operating at microwave frequencies (nominally 2.5 or 5GHZ for SSP), which can be focused into narrow beams, along with large receiving antennas on Earth. For more information on space solar power transmitter beam-dispersion issues, http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/index.htm has a good collection of engineering data published by NASA and other sources. 

Re: &quot;laser option would tear a hole in the atmosphere&quot;: Could you cite a reference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;radio waves spread like ripples&#8230;&#8221; Isotropic (omindirectional) radiation (or close to it) is indeed emitted by omnidirectional antennas, but microwave engineers use highly directional antennas such as phased arrays and parabolic dishes operating at microwave frequencies (nominally 2.5 or 5GHZ for SSP), which can be focused into narrow beams, along with large receiving antennas on Earth. For more information on space solar power transmitter beam-dispersion issues, <a href="http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/index.htm</a> has a good collection of engineering data published by NASA and other sources. </p>
<p>Re: &#8220;laser option would tear a hole in the atmosphere&#8221;: Could you cite a reference?</p>
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		<title>By: sjatkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>sjatkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two quite major things in the way that I doubt will be resolved in 10 years (95% against) or even 20 years (80% against) from where we are today.  The first problem is lift costs.  This project will take on the order of 10,000 metric tons when it costs about $7000 / kg to get to GEO today.  That is prohibitively high and would been that even a fully functioning system would take a while just to pay off launch costs.  Barring a fabulously cheap launch system or using an Orion to lift the material, the only other viable solution is mining near earth asteroids and/or the moon and processing and manufacturing in situ.

The other major blocker is that we have no means to assemble and maintain such large structures in GEO.  We don&#039;t have that many astronauts nor could that many be trained so quickly.  Even if they could, astronauts do not work in GEO.  It is much more hazardous and more difficult to support such missions.  Nor do we have remotely sufficient space robotics for the task.  Since it is GEO we don&#039;t need autonomous robots for this.  We could get by with tele-operated bots for many tasks.  But we also don&#039;t have those.  

No I think 10 years to remedy either one of these problems, much less both, is very optimistic.  Especially at a time of such economic turmoil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two quite major things in the way that I doubt will be resolved in 10 years (95% against) or even 20 years (80% against) from where we are today.  The first problem is lift costs.  This project will take on the order of 10,000 metric tons when it costs about $7000 / kg to get to GEO today.  That is prohibitively high and would been that even a fully functioning system would take a while just to pay off launch costs.  Barring a fabulously cheap launch system or using an Orion to lift the material, the only other viable solution is mining near earth asteroids and/or the moon and processing and manufacturing in situ.</p>
<p>The other major blocker is that we have no means to assemble and maintain such large structures in GEO.  We don&#8217;t have that many astronauts nor could that many be trained so quickly.  Even if they could, astronauts do not work in GEO.  It is much more hazardous and more difficult to support such missions.  Nor do we have remotely sufficient space robotics for the task.  Since it is GEO we don&#8217;t need autonomous robots for this.  We could get by with tele-operated bots for many tasks.  But we also don&#8217;t have those.  </p>
<p>No I think 10 years to remedy either one of these problems, much less both, is very optimistic.  Especially at a time of such economic turmoil.</p>
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		<title>By: asimov1</title>
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		<dc:creator>asimov1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 05:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not a snowballs chance in hell of coming to fruition , see laws of physics for details

the only way to transmit a directional beam is by laser , any kind of radio waves spread like ripples in a pond which means and just you mildly warm half the cosmos

the gigawatt  laser option would tear a hole in the atmosphere like a never ending lightening strike , and no laser yet conceived come close to a death ray operating 24/7/365 for decades at a time without maintenance

nice idea guys , but its never going to work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not a snowballs chance in hell of coming to fruition , see laws of physics for details</p>
<p>the only way to transmit a directional beam is by laser , any kind of radio waves spread like ripples in a pond which means and just you mildly warm half the cosmos</p>
<p>the gigawatt  laser option would tear a hole in the atmosphere like a never ending lightening strike , and no laser yet conceived come close to a death ray operating 24/7/365 for decades at a time without maintenance</p>
<p>nice idea guys , but its never going to work</p>
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		<title>By: kentlytle@comast.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>kentlytle@comast.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pro space development, but have always wondered: Since all the extra energy this method provides will eventually be released into the biosphere as heat, what will the consequences be? How much energy can we use with no adverse effects?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pro space development, but have always wondered: Since all the extra energy this method provides will eventually be released into the biosphere as heat, what will the consequences be? How much energy can we use with no adverse effects?</p>
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		<title>By: 7thRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>7thRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something that we could do in less time than mentioned in the article if we gave it the same effort that we would if we were going to war.
This is an idea that has been around in science fiction stories for awhile.  In those stories, the power was beamed to earth via microwaves.  If this is the technology of choice, it suggests a need to place the receiving towers far from human population.  Which creates more issues: destroying wilderness to establish highly secure receiving stations; since they are remotely situated, a means of moving the power from the receiving station to populations is needed.  
Who controls the satellites, the stations, all of it?  Since we will eventually all become dependent on these systems, that&#039;s a big question.
To close: I think that it is an appropriate evolutionary step for humanity.  We are finally able to step off our home nest, gather and distribute the bountiful energy of our life-giving sun, and provide the energy needs for all of humanity, with less pollution and resource consumption than ever before.  And with less materials than ever before; syntropy in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something that we could do in less time than mentioned in the article if we gave it the same effort that we would if we were going to war.<br />
This is an idea that has been around in science fiction stories for awhile.  In those stories, the power was beamed to earth via microwaves.  If this is the technology of choice, it suggests a need to place the receiving towers far from human population.  Which creates more issues: destroying wilderness to establish highly secure receiving stations; since they are remotely situated, a means of moving the power from the receiving station to populations is needed.<br />
Who controls the satellites, the stations, all of it?  Since we will eventually all become dependent on these systems, that&#8217;s a big question.<br />
To close: I think that it is an appropriate evolutionary step for humanity.  We are finally able to step off our home nest, gather and distribute the bountiful energy of our life-giving sun, and provide the energy needs for all of humanity, with less pollution and resource consumption than ever before.  And with less materials than ever before; syntropy in action.</p>
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		<title>By: A limitless power source for the indefinite future &#8211; Kurzweil AI &#171; Visum Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] term energy future of the world? Fret no longer my friend the laws of thermodynamics do not apply! (Well; they still do; but this could help us circumvent the energy limitations of our planet). The fact is the human population is growing at an exponential rate along with our energy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] term energy future of the world? Fret no longer my friend the laws of thermodynamics do not apply! (Well; they still do; but this could help us circumvent the energy limitations of our planet). The fact is the human population is growing at an exponential rate along with our energy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eugenedarin</title>
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		<dc:creator>eugenedarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>La Energía Solar Espacial &#171; Maestroviejo&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: melajara</title>
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		<dc:creator>melajara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The next logical steps are the validation of power transmission from space to ground&quot;. Indeed, it&#039;s critical!

Besides, what about risks on faulty dispersion over the ground? Would you bet it and accept to live nearby one of the recollection point? Anyway, the system has to be self locked and automatically turned off when the beam is moving outside the allowed perimeter. 

This is all very nice but I prefer nuclear power! 
What? 
Oh, sure, not fission but fusion! Why are the progress so slow? Confinement of the plasma sucks, I know but  it&#039;s like nobody is interested anymore at mastering nuclear fusion SOON enough (i.e. in circa 20 years).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The next logical steps are the validation of power transmission from space to ground&#8221;. Indeed, it&#8217;s critical!</p>
<p>Besides, what about risks on faulty dispersion over the ground? Would you bet it and accept to live nearby one of the recollection point? Anyway, the system has to be self locked and automatically turned off when the beam is moving outside the allowed perimeter. </p>
<p>This is all very nice but I prefer nuclear power!<br />
What?<br />
Oh, sure, not fission but fusion! Why are the progress so slow? Confinement of the plasma sucks, I know but  it&#8217;s like nobody is interested anymore at mastering nuclear fusion SOON enough (i.e. in circa 20 years).</p>
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		<dc:creator>Revista inteligente &#171; Diário do Daniel</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] verdadeira forma de obter energia limpa, com perspectiva de ser viável em 20 anos. Clique aqui para o [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Space Solar Power &#8211; a decadal study reported &#124; Crowlspace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Space Solar Power &#8211; a decadal study reported &#124; Crowlspace</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>A limitless power source for the indefinite future &#124; KurzweilAI &#171; Random Ramblings of Rude Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Khannea Suntzu</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-limitless-power-source-for-the-indefinite-future/comment-page-1#comment-5661</link>
		<dc:creator>Khannea Suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilliami, if you are right, great.

If you are wrong we are probably going to hell in a handbasket.

Wanna bet with your childrens lives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilliami, if you are right, great.</p>
<p>If you are wrong we are probably going to hell in a handbasket.</p>
<p>Wanna bet with your childrens lives?</p>
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		<title>By: Khannea Suntzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khannea Suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No bumpy.

1. chances someone or something on earth looting any solar cells or solar plants for copper or other rare Earth elements is quite a bit bigger than in space. Plus they&#039;d suspend these things in geostationary orbits. Junk is rather relatively motionless at that orbit. Plants of this sort are far more vulnerable to wind, rain, lightning, corrosion, earthquake, bird poo, terrorism, bombing, vandalism, looting etc. etc. etc. on a planetary surface.
2. the deadlyness of resource depletion is exponentially bigger than solar platforms in space. Worse, IF these things were so deadly now there&#039;s a good argument to have them in space before anyone else does, right? Quick, get one before North Korea or China gets one.
3. Invest xxxx$ in solar cells and you get a single gigawatt of electrical outpit. Next year you&#039;d be competing against anyone else&#039;s solar cells, flatscreen TV&#039;s, inflating currencies and armies and you would pay more.
Over time more planetary solar only costs more and more and more. Maybe in half a century nano will make some difference, but we need those damn terawats NOW. Or in a few years. Now a solid investment in space won&#039;t solve energy problems overnight and all these investments will cost a load of money as Uncle Giulio suggests. Probably more than we can afford at this stage. But the damn things will get cheaper as we order more of them. Solar investments on a planetary surface will only cost more and more as a function of time. Solar investments in space will cost next to nothing eventually. You can wholesale terawatts a dime a dozen a century from now.

Provided we don&#039;t miss or opportunity and we screw it up getting stuck on this damn dirt ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No bumpy.</p>
<p>1. chances someone or something on earth looting any solar cells or solar plants for copper or other rare Earth elements is quite a bit bigger than in space. Plus they&#8217;d suspend these things in geostationary orbits. Junk is rather relatively motionless at that orbit. Plants of this sort are far more vulnerable to wind, rain, lightning, corrosion, earthquake, bird poo, terrorism, bombing, vandalism, looting etc. etc. etc. on a planetary surface.<br />
2. the deadlyness of resource depletion is exponentially bigger than solar platforms in space. Worse, IF these things were so deadly now there&#8217;s a good argument to have them in space before anyone else does, right? Quick, get one before North Korea or China gets one.<br />
3. Invest xxxx$ in solar cells and you get a single gigawatt of electrical outpit. Next year you&#8217;d be competing against anyone else&#8217;s solar cells, flatscreen TV&#8217;s, inflating currencies and armies and you would pay more.<br />
Over time more planetary solar only costs more and more and more. Maybe in half a century nano will make some difference, but we need those damn terawats NOW. Or in a few years. Now a solid investment in space won&#8217;t solve energy problems overnight and all these investments will cost a load of money as Uncle Giulio suggests. Probably more than we can afford at this stage. But the damn things will get cheaper as we order more of them. Solar investments on a planetary surface will only cost more and more as a function of time. Solar investments in space will cost next to nothing eventually. You can wholesale terawatts a dime a dozen a century from now.</p>
<p>Provided we don&#8217;t miss or opportunity and we screw it up getting stuck on this damn dirt ball.</p>
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		<title>By: gillammi</title>
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		<dc:creator>gillammi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we really predict an energy crisis?

Kurzweil previously forecast the opposite scenario of 100% solar energy abundance in 16 years given the 34 year trend of two year doubling times for solar cell production.  http://bigthink.com/ideas/31635?page=all

Even if our energy needs double in that time, that is only two additional years before that need would be met too.

That is just the progress in solar.  Considering all the other fields of energy development as well - don&#039;t the trends strongly suggest energy over abundance rather than energy shortage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really predict an energy crisis?</p>
<p>Kurzweil previously forecast the opposite scenario of 100% solar energy abundance in 16 years given the 34 year trend of two year doubling times for solar cell production.  <a href="http://bigthink.com/ideas/31635?page=all" rel="nofollow">http://bigthink.com/ideas/31635?page=all</a></p>
<p>Even if our energy needs double in that time, that is only two additional years before that need would be met too.</p>
<p>That is just the progress in solar.  Considering all the other fields of energy development as well &#8211; don&#8217;t the trends strongly suggest energy over abundance rather than energy shortage?</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Prisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giulio Prisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome article, and concept. I have often heard of SSP, but I had formed the impression that the benefits would not justify the costs. I hope future development will prove me wrong.

The proposal is of 2002, and similar concepts have been proposed since the 70s, but I guess the key difference is &quot;space solar power appears to be technically feasible within 10–20 years using technologies existing now in the laboratory; It appears to be economically viable...&quot;

@bumpy1: like all disruptive technologies (for example the Internet that we are using for these comments), this has its own dangers and can be used also for bad ends. But I think the potential benefits outweigh the potential dangers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article, and concept. I have often heard of SSP, but I had formed the impression that the benefits would not justify the costs. I hope future development will prove me wrong.</p>
<p>The proposal is of 2002, and similar concepts have been proposed since the 70s, but I guess the key difference is &#8220;space solar power appears to be technically feasible within 10–20 years using technologies existing now in the laboratory; It appears to be economically viable&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>@bumpy1: like all disruptive technologies (for example the Internet that we are using for these comments), this has its own dangers and can be used also for bad ends. But I think the potential benefits outweigh the potential dangers.</p>
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		<title>By: bumpy1</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumpy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely I&#039;m not the only one to perceive the dangers inherent in such a system. In the wrong hands, it would be a more dangerous weapon than any nuclear or thermonuclear weapon, because it would be more precisely controllable, re-usable, and not subject to interception.   It would be vulnerable to destruction through internal malfunction, belligerent attack, or collision with wandering celestial objects or manmade space junk.   A much safer, if less efficient, system would be one based on widely distributed solar collectors on the Earth&#039;s surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely I&#8217;m not the only one to perceive the dangers inherent in such a system. In the wrong hands, it would be a more dangerous weapon than any nuclear or thermonuclear weapon, because it would be more precisely controllable, re-usable, and not subject to interception.   It would be vulnerable to destruction through internal malfunction, belligerent attack, or collision with wandering celestial objects or manmade space junk.   A much safer, if less efficient, system would be one based on widely distributed solar collectors on the Earth&#8217;s surface.</p>
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		<title>By: Khannea Suntzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khannea Suntzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd last time I discussed this concept it was boo-ed out of the room, and several libertarian fetishists there insisted &quot;we have more than enough oil and energy sources to last us centuries&quot;. Things sure change fast don&#039;t they? Oh right that was last year.

Now even teh Kurzweil runs this story of SSPS. I am truly in a state of elated mirth&#039;aciousness.

http://www.scoop.it/t/space-versus-oil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd last time I discussed this concept it was boo-ed out of the room, and several libertarian fetishists there insisted &#8220;we have more than enough oil and energy sources to last us centuries&#8221;. Things sure change fast don&#8217;t they? Oh right that was last year.</p>
<p>Now even teh Kurzweil runs this story of SSPS. I am truly in a state of elated mirth&#8217;aciousness.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scoop.it/t/space-versus-oil" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.it/t/space-versus-oil</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>A limitless power source for the indefinite future &#124; KurzweilAI &#124; Business, Technology and the Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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