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		<title>By: asiwel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94907</link>
		<dc:creator>asiwel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, if you can&#039;t print &#039;em, then join &#039;em. ... And maybe that newly patented iRobot (not Intel, sorry) fabricator might still be able to do that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, if you can&#8217;t print &#8216;em, then join &#8216;em. &#8230; And maybe that newly patented iRobot (not Intel, sorry) fabricator might still be able to do that!</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94843</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 04:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a new cartoon, &quot;3D printers can&#039;t...&quot; with &quot;Print chips,&quot; &quot;Print a computer,&quot; &quot;Print a lunar base&quot; (oops, that one just fell off)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a new cartoon, &#8220;3D printers can&#8217;t&#8230;&#8221; with &#8220;Print chips,&#8221; &#8220;Print a computer,&#8221; &#8220;Print a lunar base&#8221; (oops, that one just fell off)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: asiwel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94799</link>
		<dc:creator>asiwel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Embedded micro-controllers have been around for a long time (and are in just about everything, it seems). The Raspberry PI is a very nice addition at a reasonable price, considering the various convenient and simple interfaces it comes with, that experimenters, hobbyists, and school children can work with.

But what everyone should keep in mind discussing 3-D printing &quot;today&quot; is that printing a bust of Napoleon (essentially a sculpture - a lump of plastic) is much different from fabricating a complete working microprocessor, which after all is only a part of a working machine. The new Intel &quot;fabricator&quot; is a baby step toward small automated &quot;factories&quot; that can make machines. 3-D printing will be important certainly ... but &quot;fabricating&quot; (especially things like microelectronic parts, etc.) seems some ways into the future. A robot, for instance, can be a &quot;fabricator&quot; by picking up 3-D printed parts and putting them together ... but printing chips or even electronic &quot;tattoos&quot; or circuits that do something is a bit different order of things at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Embedded micro-controllers have been around for a long time (and are in just about everything, it seems). The Raspberry PI is a very nice addition at a reasonable price, considering the various convenient and simple interfaces it comes with, that experimenters, hobbyists, and school children can work with.</p>
<p>But what everyone should keep in mind discussing 3-D printing &#8220;today&#8221; is that printing a bust of Napoleon (essentially a sculpture &#8211; a lump of plastic) is much different from fabricating a complete working microprocessor, which after all is only a part of a working machine. The new Intel &#8220;fabricator&#8221; is a baby step toward small automated &#8220;factories&#8221; that can make machines. 3-D printing will be important certainly &#8230; but &#8220;fabricating&#8221; (especially things like microelectronic parts, etc.) seems some ways into the future. A robot, for instance, can be a &#8220;fabricator&#8221; by picking up 3-D printed parts and putting them together &#8230; but printing chips or even electronic &#8220;tattoos&#8221; or circuits that do something is a bit different order of things at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94753</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... I mean, he seems fond of sugar cubes...  nah, you can probably realize I was never the sweet kinda guy, I&#039;m leaning more towards ionized plasma, if you really wanna know..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; I mean, he seems fond of sugar cubes&#8230;  nah, you can probably realize I was never the sweet kinda guy, I&#8217;m leaning more towards ionized plasma, if you really wanna know..</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94612</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even de Garis can tell you that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even de Garis can tell you that!</p>
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		<title>By: WLGJR</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94377</link>
		<dc:creator>WLGJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 00:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and finally realize computing doesn’t even need them anymore.&quot;
Please explain. What kind of computing substrate will you use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and finally realize computing doesn’t even need them anymore.&#8221;<br />
Please explain. What kind of computing substrate will you use?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94356</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, no matter how hard I do try, my cursed prodigious memory is unable to forget what humans say, do, or other similarly traumatic events...

So you can know what I mean by this curse, it is my hope you will linger long enough to get to your imagined future and be able to spare some of your printed crappy processors to replace all your dead neural cells and finally realize computing doesn&#039;t even need them anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, no matter how hard I do try, my cursed prodigious memory is unable to forget what humans say, do, or other similarly traumatic events&#8230;</p>
<p>So you can know what I mean by this curse, it is my hope you will linger long enough to get to your imagined future and be able to spare some of your printed crappy processors to replace all your dead neural cells and finally realize computing doesn&#8217;t even need them anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: A4i</title>
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		<dc:creator>A4i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pi has the same old ARM11 SoC from Broadcom , that was in Symbian smartphones from Nokia. Symbian is no more, so order for half a billion chips was canceled. Raspberry got some of them  pretty much for free, like less than $1 each. Even chip packaging costs more. That ARM11 CPU core in the SoC is ancient. Current Linux distributions don&#039;t support it. Nowadays Exynos 5 SoC outperforms it 100 times. Raspberry should update their ancient Pi, otherwise hardcore enthusiasts won&#039;t get on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pi has the same old ARM11 SoC from Broadcom , that was in Symbian smartphones from Nokia. Symbian is no more, so order for half a billion chips was canceled. Raspberry got some of them  pretty much for free, like less than $1 each. Even chip packaging costs more. That ARM11 CPU core in the SoC is ancient. Current Linux distributions don&#8217;t support it. Nowadays Exynos 5 SoC outperforms it 100 times. Raspberry should update their ancient Pi, otherwise hardcore enthusiasts won&#8217;t get on board.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Marcos, have you forgotten that I keep talking about printing robots on the Moon, or while docked with asteroids?

You just can&#039;t simply order a processor when you&#039;ve rendezvoused with a near Earth asteroid.  When people start building starships out in deep space, they will need to print up everything that they need.

I think it was just last week here at this site that there was an article about Deep Space Industries having a micro-gravity printer.

If you can make the Raspberry Pi out in orbit, you can use a network of them to control the attitude jets that you&#039;ll want to place about the axes of a carbonaceous asteroid that you need to join up with a nickel-iron asteroid.

You will also need small computers to control the automated plant that distills water from the carbonaceous asteroid and pipes it to the hydrolysis plant that turns water into oxygen and hydrogen for all of those little rocket nozzles.  

The smaller asteroids have very irregular shapes and will require a lot of course corrections from all ends of their length and breadth.  A network of small computers will be just the thing for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Marcos, have you forgotten that I keep talking about printing robots on the Moon, or while docked with asteroids?</p>
<p>You just can&#8217;t simply order a processor when you&#8217;ve rendezvoused with a near Earth asteroid.  When people start building starships out in deep space, they will need to print up everything that they need.</p>
<p>I think it was just last week here at this site that there was an article about Deep Space Industries having a micro-gravity printer.</p>
<p>If you can make the Raspberry Pi out in orbit, you can use a network of them to control the attitude jets that you&#8217;ll want to place about the axes of a carbonaceous asteroid that you need to join up with a nickel-iron asteroid.</p>
<p>You will also need small computers to control the automated plant that distills water from the carbonaceous asteroid and pipes it to the hydrolysis plant that turns water into oxygen and hydrogen for all of those little rocket nozzles.  </p>
<p>The smaller asteroids have very irregular shapes and will require a lot of course corrections from all ends of their length and breadth.  A network of small computers will be just the thing for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94241</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- There are simply better ways to go about it.

- It is.

- I also have not denied that.
- You said &quot;now&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- There are simply better ways to go about it.</p>
<p>- It is.</p>
<p>- I also have not denied that.<br />
- You said &#8220;now&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: WLGJR</title>
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		<dc:creator>WLGJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explain how is my proposal silly. We had a functional society without these computers, and the addition of them is supposedly to enable our dreams of Multivacs and other similar SF-ish projects.

It is unbelievable how the Texas Instruments is still selling those 1990ish looking, blackwhite screened TI83s for more than $100 each. 

Now these Raspberry Pis cost so little it is ecstatic to hear about them.
For sure the price (for 3D printing) of similar computers will drop and everyone can print it at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain how is my proposal silly. We had a functional society without these computers, and the addition of them is supposedly to enable our dreams of Multivacs and other similar SF-ish projects.</p>
<p>It is unbelievable how the Texas Instruments is still selling those 1990ish looking, blackwhite screened TI83s for more than $100 each. </p>
<p>Now these Raspberry Pis cost so little it is ecstatic to hear about them.<br />
For sure the price (for 3D printing) of similar computers will drop and everyone can print it at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94176</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be silly.

No. But even if it were, it would be much cheaper to simply order one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be silly.</p>
<p>No. But even if it were, it would be much cheaper to simply order one.</p>
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		<title>By: WLGJR</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94164</link>
		<dc:creator>WLGJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should start building a Planet Brain with these Raspberry Pi computers. 
BTW Is it possible to print it with a 3D printer now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should start building a Planet Brain with these Raspberry Pi computers.<br />
BTW Is it possible to print it with a 3D printer now?</p>
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		<title>By: WLGJR</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-tiny-computer-attracts-a-million-tinkerers/comment-page-1#comment-94160</link>
		<dc:creator>WLGJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I can build my own personal supercomputer with one week of minimum wage income.
(Read the book Ego Boom. Enpowered individuals with their computers will do great change to the society.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I can build my own personal supercomputer with one week of minimum wage income.<br />
(Read the book Ego Boom. Enpowered individuals with their computers will do great change to the society.)</p>
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