Comments on: Advanced humanoid Roboy to be ‘born’ in nine months

By: da

da — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:00:49 +0000

yep, they have. state of the art: “physically working in a non-human way but in a humanoid body”. approach to improve the valley situation: “physically working in a human style way in a humanoid body”. Still not human, and if it tries to “fake it” too much, it’ll still get rejected, but it’ll produce fewer of the “OMG, you can’t be serous that some families give their Roomba a pet name and take it on vacation?” responses and more of the “yeah, we really want to look after our roboy too, and want to make sure he gets to a great college when he leaves home” responses. (Okay, improbable, but since the apocalypse-by-robot trolling started, I thought this more probable scenario worthy of comment).

By: Devour

Devour — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:53:12 +0000

I wonder if they could cook…

By: vernes

vernes — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 11:23:54 +0000

The “super smart robots will kill us all” is like saying “This etch-a-sketch will expose us to obscenity and vulgarity”.
For starters, the robots are designed, and although we strife for them to be able to reach their own conclusion, you do NOT give them the keys to your bombs.
You do NOT design fail-safe that can be bypassed by any means.
If you say that this scenario happens, you are actually saying you DESIGNED the robots for exactly this scenario. Let’s pretend we do not wish to create an elaborate suicide machine ok?

Further more, acts of evil, or rather, acts that put yourself in a better position at the cost of others are by their very nature self-destructive.
Only short sighted people take this action and although it works for a short while, their actions will cost them more then it gained them.
Entertaining the thought that an AI with superior intellect will reach the same faulty conclusions as humans is laughable.

Please stop trying to integrate robots into your apocalypse-addiction. It has absolutely no other function except to slow down progress in general by creating bad image, decreasing the funding we need from rich, dumb people.

By: Moon

Moon — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:53:32 +0000

I am not saying it means nothing – I am saying that there is no formal agreement to incorporate those laws into robot design. There will probably also not be any large-scale effort to do so as this would run counter to military applications already in the works.

” I won’t even go into the mass of Star Trek devices that have been developed by geek engineers…”

I believe there is a big difference between developing technology and limiting technology.

By: eldras

eldras — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:10:45 +0000

Hello gotot,

I know these arguments and I’ve dismissed them on several grounds.

1. we dont know enough about QT

2. The many worlds theory ejects a special role for the observer.

3. While a cosmic ray hitting a caveman may seem impossible to restrict in your analysis, it would leave many traces by the butterfly effect (or nil trace which would make it irrelevant)

By: b

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 02:40:40 +0000

Nope, I just care to point out how silly it is. There is a difference.

By: Cybernettr

Cybernettr — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:32:31 +0000

I always thought the robots in I, Robot were dumb looking. Robots with mannequin heads, or a bunch of walking wig stands.

By: Cybernettr

Cybernettr — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:30:35 +0000

Uh, just who do you think will be needed to patronize all those stores on Thanksgiving and Christmas?

By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:36:04 +0000

You can’t control us!

By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:34:33 +0000

I heard you! LOL!!!

By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:29:45 +0000

You seem to care!

By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:28:50 +0000

Could I use my robot to beat up your robot?

By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:27:44 +0000

Great idea!

By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:24:46 +0000

It’s just gonna be a matter of time before the first “incident”.

By: Max

Max — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:14:01 +0000

Have any of this “researchers” ever heard of the Uncanny valley?

By: teleri

teleri — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 07:47:16 +0000

It is my understanding that Asimov’s Laws of Robotics ARE being adapted for implementation (revised) by South Korea…
And WHY do morons continually insist that if an idea comes from a work of fiction is means nothing? I mean, REALLY??? I won’t even go into the mass of Star Trek devices that have been developed by geek engineers… Let me just point out that there are myriad instances of novels creating real change (Uncle Tom’s Cabin & The Jungle come to mind immediately.

By: b

Sat, 29 Dec 2012 03:48:27 +0000

No one here is trying to replicate a ‘soul’. There is no point is trying to make something that is so ill-defined as a supernatural entity that is contained within some shell. They aren’t trying to disprove creationism… this project or others like it have no interest in religious dogma, it simply doesn’t factor in. It DOES not matter what you believe, robots and computers will continue to change and advance, or it won’t. This is independent of what your religious views are. They do not care. It is irrelevant. These attempts at criticizing their efforts or shoving some random bit of religious mysticism into it is pathetic.

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:21:37 +0000

they will not have souls unfortunately – humans can’t create those

By: eldras

eldras — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:23:46 +0000

Glaw
that is the Lazarus Long Delusion

https://sites.google.com/site/lazaruslongdelusion/

By: eldras

eldras — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:21:39 +0000

Have I been waiting for godot!

Your issue is error in retrodiction across the quantum realm I think?

Prediction and retrodiction in quantum systems are demonstrably intensely accurate. Quantum systems are reversible.

One cant disregard what we can see and prove.

1. As we advance in technical skills and maths, we reconstruct the past better.

2. Coming computation is likely to be vaster than we anything we have known.

3. Sufficient computing power could well enable a complete reconstruction of all past human events cross-referencing things that have survived.

4. Things that have survived include the DNA record, the biological record, the archaeological record, the cosmic record, the geological record, the historical record, and other vast and growing data bases, some which already have trillions of variables.

You may think this new, but we’ve been bashing it on kurzweil forums since 2002.

By: Dayle

Dayle — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:45:48 +0000

God gave man the brain that eventually evolved to create such a device to replace him. Man then just lets this machine take care of him, and because it is so intelligent, it will continue make itself more able to conduct this task.

By: bizonc

bizonc — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:35:38 +0000

I think the the conservative religious folks or perhaps all religious folks do not like the idea that sentience can be created and will be created one day. It’s why some even reject the idea that we will created conscious mechanical or virtual beings. That and the illusion of free will is even scarier than Darwinianism and Cosmology. If consciousness came about once by natural processes it can happen again with our aid. We will create them in our image but hopefully without the lengthy millions of years of selection of our nasty more primitive traits.

The space of possible intelligences might be extensive.
http://www.kk.org/writings/nerd_theology.pdf

By: bizonc

bizonc — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:17:16 +0000

yes they are.

By: b

Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:17:14 +0000

How so? Lol… people are so ridiculous…

By: Marley

Marley — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:42:40 +0000

Suzy, isn’t that pretty much how every human army is developed already? ;)

By: Erik Wilkinson

Erik Wilkinson — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:20:47 +0000

Wow… The more I read the clearer it becomes

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:10:44 +0000

Of course pop culture will go nuts when these come out, I bet there will be a swarm of reality TV shows, like “Pimp My Robot” and “Jersey Robot Goes To The Shore”.

By: Ira Baxter

Ira Baxter — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:07:46 +0000

I love the BS about “Roboy is targeted as a service robot”. This announcement is about mechanical implementation. It contains nothing to indicate the people behind have any ability to deliver a smart enough computing to run a robot, or any demonstartion that this robot can actually do anything. I object to either the people behind the project collecting money by implying that this robot is likely to be useful, or the person writing the article, who seems to be living in a fantasy about what is practical.

By: Kate

Kate — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:52:11 +0000

Owner: Roboy, sweep the floor.
Roboy: Sorry, deep the door does not compute.
Owner: No, no, I said – sweep the floor.
Roboy: Sorry, weep the store does not compute.
Owner: what’s wrong with your voice recognition software?
Roboy: It is working perfectly.
Owner: Then why can’t you understand me?
Roboy: Humans are complex beings, it is difficult to understand them.
Owner: No, I mean why don’t you comprehend what I am saying?
Roboy: Deep the door, weep the store, does not compute. Please issue a new command.
Owner; Roboy- got to sleep, I’ll do it myself. Idiot.
Roboy: Complying.

By: Kate

Kate — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:44:34 +0000

lol, now that was funny.

By: SATIRO

SATIRO — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:18:02 +0000

LETS NOT WORRY TOO MUCH! THE ROBOTS ARE HERE TO HELP US. THEY WILL GATHER ALL OUR INFORMATION SEND IT TO THE GIANT ROBOT,THEY WILL KNOW EVERY MOVE WE MAKE WORD WE SAY HABBITS PATTERNS INFIRMITIES THEY WILL SEND ROBOT NURSES AND KOBORKIES IF THE PAIN IS TOO UNBEARABLE,SO PLEASE DON’T WORRY, WORRYING WILL KILL YOU SOONER THAN THE KOBORKYROBOTS.

By: carl

carl — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:43:43 +0000

That’s the problem. I do understand him!

By: Moon

Moon — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:02:36 +0000

The more real/lifelike they try to make it, the creepier it is more likely to appear to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

By: Moon

Moon — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:00:31 +0000

I hope you realize that those laws are simply just a science fiction convention and so they are not required to be instilled into robots/computers at all.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/what-robo-haulers-need-now-big-guns/

By: Lenora Good

Lenora Good — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:49:48 +0000

Three Laws of Robotics:
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

By: Dude

Dude — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:19:33 +0000

3 to 5 years these days as knowlege is so accessable it will come from some garage college kids who get the right marketing

By: Dude

Dude — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:08:43 +0000

I wish people would just see this as a tool it will be quirky and not really up to what people expect artificial inteligence does not exist you can’t even get a decent answering machine when you call the bank.

By: Dude

Dude — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:01:18 +0000

They run on foodstamps

By: Eugene

Eugene — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:33:59 +0000

I went outside and yelled a reply. Didn’t you hear me?

By: georgie pie

georgie pie — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:23:40 +0000

Awesome post…not a hint of sarcasm.

By: Rock Smithy

Rock Smithy — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:48:34 +0000

Based on your response, it would seem that I passed.

By: Suzy

Suzy — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:34:49 +0000

I’m just worried that one industrialist or country in control of a army of these, they can do what ever they want and the robots won’t challenge their master because they are really just advanced computers. Its just really a matter of time.

By: Larz0

Larz0 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:27:44 +0000

You are the only one who seems threatened.

By: jc

jc — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:27:28 +0000

true, google has already learned how to drive a frkn car and recognize faces, seems to know what i am searching for in just a few words..

By: Roger Robo

Roger Robo — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:19:19 +0000

This will be a great boon to Home Care technology which will allow seniors to remain independent for a greater period. They will be able to clean, fetch, and assist old seniors in myriad ways.

By: G Emerson Biggins

G Emerson Biggins — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:18:56 +0000

Yup, this is how it starts…they WILL kill us all!

By: schlang

schlang — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:12:04 +0000

So, i guess this will be the new survailence gimmick of the NWO!

By: m

Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:48:17 +0000

Amen,brother!

By: b

Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:34:49 +0000

Do creationists really feel so threatened that you need to insert your religious views somewhere where no one cared or bothered to ask about?

By: b

Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:33:07 +0000

Yep, for sure people reading a site devoted to future technology that shares a name with the man who is probably the biggest voice behind the singularity need to google it.