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		<title>By: grayfox9x</title>
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		<dc:creator>grayfox9x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, at some point, it will become clear that the structure of society will have to change.  There will be a problem, however, with a period of time between the point where unemployment rises so much that social unrest begins AND the point where society realizes the changes are permanent and society itself has to change.  

In the US, especially, the idea of socialism is a problem for many people and many of these people have guns.   I am more fearful for the next generation .. they will go through the modern equivalent of the industrial revolution ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, at some point, it will become clear that the structure of society will have to change.  There will be a problem, however, with a period of time between the point where unemployment rises so much that social unrest begins AND the point where society realizes the changes are permanent and society itself has to change.  </p>
<p>In the US, especially, the idea of socialism is a problem for many people and many of these people have guns.   I am more fearful for the next generation .. they will go through the modern equivalent of the industrial revolution ..</p>
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		<title>By: haglin</title>
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		<dc:creator>haglin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will take time before we get cost effective robots in experience related industries that people will be prefer to use compared to humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will take time before we get cost effective robots in experience related industries that people will be prefer to use compared to humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84246</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurzweil personally sees a day when Work and Play are indistinquishable from eachother....that the primary focus is to &quot;create knowledge&quot;...when we live in a post-scarcity environment where nano-tech can create virtually any physical product for next-to-nothing, the role of work will shift to creating knowledge of all kinds (from the arts, music, science, tech and so on)....the role of playing will be the same, so their is no distinction between the two.

Something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurzweil personally sees a day when Work and Play are indistinquishable from eachother&#8230;.that the primary focus is to &#8220;create knowledge&#8221;&#8230;when we live in a post-scarcity environment where nano-tech can create virtually any physical product for next-to-nothing, the role of work will shift to creating knowledge of all kinds (from the arts, music, science, tech and so on)&#8230;.the role of playing will be the same, so their is no distinction between the two.</p>
<p>Something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84171</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Optimists such as Buckminster Fuller did not account for the fact that the technology would create an imbalance of power between workers and their employers...between the rich and the poor.  Karl Marx did, but I hope things don&#039;t play out the way he envisioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Optimists such as Buckminster Fuller did not account for the fact that the technology would create an imbalance of power between workers and their employers&#8230;between the rich and the poor.  Karl Marx did, but I hope things don&#8217;t play out the way he envisioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84167</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robots will become so cheap as to be DISPOSABLE...just like TV&#039;s and VCR&#039;s...there will be no need for repairs.  Plus, technology will advance so rapidly that robots will need to be replaced every few years anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robots will become so cheap as to be DISPOSABLE&#8230;just like TV&#8217;s and VCR&#8217;s&#8230;there will be no need for repairs.  Plus, technology will advance so rapidly that robots will need to be replaced every few years anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84166</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this statement...I am going to steal it for myself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this statement&#8230;I am going to steal it for myself :)</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84163</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True...I was being over-dramatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True&#8230;I was being over-dramatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84162</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They CAN, but why would the person who owns them do this for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They CAN, but why would the person who owns them do this for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...you judge my post based on your own personal definition of reality and then assume I need to &quot;augment&quot; my thinking with your own opinions...hmm...

I believe that we are all inter-dimensional energy-based entities (spirits) that interface with a physical avatar.  In my view &quot;spirituality&quot; is accessing information available through our multi-dimensional senses that is not otherwise accessible via our nervous system.

Prayer is communication with the higher-level being (god) that created this physical world.  I believe that this being is literally sire to our spirits and that we are his children.

A &quot;miracle&quot; is merely an event that cannot be explained by our current limited understanding of science.  

As for the distinction between &quot;mental&quot; and &quot;emotional&quot; I use these terms in their colloquial sense to distinguish between LOGIC, and IRRATIONAL forms of thought.  Computers are (as yet) incapable of emotion...most of the work in programming has been focused on LOGIC because the most profitable applications are logic based rather than emotional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;you judge my post based on your own personal definition of reality and then assume I need to &#8220;augment&#8221; my thinking with your own opinions&#8230;hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe that we are all inter-dimensional energy-based entities (spirits) that interface with a physical avatar.  In my view &#8220;spirituality&#8221; is accessing information available through our multi-dimensional senses that is not otherwise accessible via our nervous system.</p>
<p>Prayer is communication with the higher-level being (god) that created this physical world.  I believe that this being is literally sire to our spirits and that we are his children.</p>
<p>A &#8220;miracle&#8221; is merely an event that cannot be explained by our current limited understanding of science.  </p>
<p>As for the distinction between &#8220;mental&#8221; and &#8220;emotional&#8221; I use these terms in their colloquial sense to distinguish between LOGIC, and IRRATIONAL forms of thought.  Computers are (as yet) incapable of emotion&#8230;most of the work in programming has been focused on LOGIC because the most profitable applications are logic based rather than emotional.</p>
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		<title>By: de Broglie</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84128</link>
		<dc:creator>de Broglie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 03:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giulio, how would a Basic Income Guarantee work for countries with liberal immigration policies?  If the B.I.G. was higher in a particular country, wouldn&#039;t that induce people to move there?  Indeed, the United States would have difficulties with Mexican immigrants trying to come to the United States and have children born in the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giulio, how would a Basic Income Guarantee work for countries with liberal immigration policies?  If the B.I.G. was higher in a particular country, wouldn&#8217;t that induce people to move there?  Indeed, the United States would have difficulties with Mexican immigrants trying to come to the United States and have children born in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mooney</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84039</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But those with wealth, who control Hateradio, will use their favorite tool, FEAR, to keep things as they are. Don&#039;t underestimate that. It&#039;s worked for centuries. And if fear doesn&#039;t work, they just start a war and get the flags waving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But those with wealth, who control Hateradio, will use their favorite tool, FEAR, to keep things as they are. Don&#8217;t underestimate that. It&#8217;s worked for centuries. And if fear doesn&#8217;t work, they just start a war and get the flags waving.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mooney</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84037</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just redefine the word &quot;shiftless.&quot; It&#039;s a hateful appellation the worker bees put on those they don&#039;t understand. Most of the great artists and thinkers were &quot;shiftless&quot; for good portions of their life, and constantly heard &quot;why dontcha getta real job?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just redefine the word &#8220;shiftless.&#8221; It&#8217;s a hateful appellation the worker bees put on those they don&#8217;t understand. Most of the great artists and thinkers were &#8220;shiftless&#8221; for good portions of their life, and constantly heard &#8220;why dontcha getta real job?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the despised Nixon (who was more liberal than most democrats today) proposed that during his tenure - a Guaranteed Annual Wage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the despised Nixon (who was more liberal than most democrats today) proposed that during his tenure &#8211; a Guaranteed Annual Wage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mooney</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-84035</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have consistently said that while we have a 21st century science we have an 18th century economy - and that doesn&#039;t appear to be getting any better, if not worse. This is why all those rosy predictions by Buckminster Fuller or The Triple Revolution were right about the production increase, but wrong that it would result in, for instance, lowered work hours (If anything they are increasing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have consistently said that while we have a 21st century science we have an 18th century economy &#8211; and that doesn&#8217;t appear to be getting any better, if not worse. This is why all those rosy predictions by Buckminster Fuller or The Triple Revolution were right about the production increase, but wrong that it would result in, for instance, lowered work hours (If anything they are increasing.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.
I think a relevent addition is to say, we should see &quot;free market capitalism&quot; for what it is - a theoretical ideal not applicable to the real world without severe compromise.
Free Market =&gt; no graft or political influence, which we have.
Free Market =&gt; no political system at all, which we have.
Free Market =&gt; no price fixing, which we have.
etc., etc.

So, to follow the example, housing is expensive due to price fixing and manipulation of credit availability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.<br />
I think a relevent addition is to say, we should see &#8220;free market capitalism&#8221; for what it is &#8211; a theoretical ideal not applicable to the real world without severe compromise.<br />
Free Market =&gt; no graft or political influence, which we have.<br />
Free Market =&gt; no political system at all, which we have.<br />
Free Market =&gt; no price fixing, which we have.<br />
etc., etc.</p>
<p>So, to follow the example, housing is expensive due to price fixing and manipulation of credit availability.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;its&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;its&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.
Merging fast with our technology to use all of it&#039;s advantages before AGIs do is our only hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.<br />
Merging fast with our technology to use all of it&#8217;s advantages before AGIs do is our only hope.</p>
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		<title>By: piman</title>
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		<dc:creator>piman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I believe we will achieve human level machine intelligence...&quot;

&quot;People are still going to dive in the Great Barrier Reef, go skiing in Aspen, eat good food, go out to dance and do other experience related activities.&quot;

&quot;I don’t see computers taking over jobs in those sectors for a long time&quot;


Hm I don&#039;t get it:  Why couldn&#039;t human-level AGI&#039;s (with better machine-bodies than today) run a restaurant, run a ski resort, safely operate a sailing vessel?
 ..Unless you&#039;re thinking that robotic bodies (&quot;physical presence&quot;) won&#039;t be ready for that for a long time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I believe we will achieve human level machine intelligence&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;People are still going to dive in the Great Barrier Reef, go skiing in Aspen, eat good food, go out to dance and do other experience related activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t see computers taking over jobs in those sectors for a long time&#8221;</p>
<p>Hm I don&#8217;t get it:  Why couldn&#8217;t human-level AGI&#8217;s (with better machine-bodies than today) run a restaurant, run a ski resort, safely operate a sailing vessel?<br />
 ..Unless you&#8217;re thinking that robotic bodies (&#8220;physical presence&#8221;) won&#8217;t be ready for that for a long time?</p>
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		<title>By: piman</title>
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		<dc:creator>piman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;God protect us..&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t count on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;God protect us..&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t count on it.</p>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robot repair?</description>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always watch you on the Hail Satan Network.</description>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free markets are great. Where can we get one of those?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free markets are great. Where can we get one of those?</p>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politically, the future is a dead end. Remove the road bumps and it starts to brighten a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politically, the future is a dead end. Remove the road bumps and it starts to brighten a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot can and will happen in 32 years. AI will continue to make incremental improvements and will become as essential as a capable assistant / confidant. Robots will become essential to functioning and navigating day to day existence also. We&#039;ll wonder how we ever got along without these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot can and will happen in 32 years. AI will continue to make incremental improvements and will become as essential as a capable assistant / confidant. Robots will become essential to functioning and navigating day to day existence also. We&#8217;ll wonder how we ever got along without these things.</p>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money will still exist in the future. Commodities and metals will continue to have value, IP will have value, even &quot;bitcoin&quot; will have value. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money will still exist in the future. Commodities and metals will continue to have value, IP will have value, even &#8220;bitcoin&#8221; will have value. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just imagine as we enter an era of mass customization with even more sophisticated 3-D printers on every corner, or in every household. Manufacturing of everything but food will all be local, efficient and involve almost no humans.</description>
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		<title>By: McTruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>McTruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax robots? Get serious. We need less government, less centralization, less taxes and more local solutions. The days of gigantic, clumsy and inefficient government &quot;solutions&quot; to problems they have created is dead. Decentralized, Internet-based and supported by robots and AI will be the future sooner than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax robots? Get serious. We need less government, less centralization, less taxes and more local solutions. The days of gigantic, clumsy and inefficient government &#8220;solutions&#8221; to problems they have created is dead. Decentralized, Internet-based and supported by robots and AI will be the future sooner than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a lot of people are not expressing this right.

Yes, the future belongs to the augmented and the AI...but it helps to clarify that, those who choose not to augment themselves, will not be left behind....because, as expressed before, they will have a world of abundance around them to enjoy. In a sense, they aren&#039;t missing out on anything...it&#039;s not that they are being &#039;left behind&#039;, there is this us vs them rift and so on....that&#039;s something I feel is, unconsciously, made without being intended.

If people choose to augment themselves in the future, this is their own personal choice to made, probably stemming from their own personal philosophy and beliefs...if that&#039;s what they choose, they will still have this new world around them, which still gives them plenty to love and live for....it&#039;s just that, they are making the conscious decision not to augment themselves and “move on”. They aren&#039;t gonna live on preservation farms or any &#039;cages&#039;....

Their seems to just be a lot of anxiety and attempts to create an “us vs them”, and I don&#039;t see it that way – All of this can be eliminated if people simply augmented themselves (and their will be a lot of pressure to do so), but if they don&#039;t, and such decisions should be respected, measures will have to be taken to accommodate them, and they can be more then comfortable given the abundant resources of the world to come.

My vision for the future are as followed:

1) Their will obviously be different sects of society depending on the level of augmentation...for those who choose not to augment themselves whatsoever, they are more then &#039;taken care of&#039;, and have plenty to love and live for...they simply do not wish to augment themselves for their own personal reasons, and thus, are accomodated in their own (inevitably temporary) sect of society until they die.
2) This sect of society comes to be because, naturally, the augmented still care and love those who don&#039;t (probably now, on a level that the &#039;naturals&#039; can&#039;t even comprehend anymore).....because they obviously are not Terminators who suddenly, with their mega-intelligence, wish to kill everyone not like them....they still have memories and emotional attachment (though now vastly augmented and beyond what they could have comprehended before) to their loved ones and obviously would not suddenly wish to kill them...that&#039;s an irrational movie-style Darwinian fear....again, these are human beings, vastly more capable then they were before.
3) The sect of society made to accommodate the &#039;naturals&#039; will not be this poorly run-down dystopian farm ripped straight from Hollywood where the &#039;naturals&#039; are forced to live off of rations, and thus, unconciously pressured to augment themselves and some them stubbornly and pridefully don&#039;t because they don&#039;t want to &#039;give in&#039; to their &#039;captors&#039;.....It will be a sect of society, undoubtedly vastly more comfortable and pleasant, then what people have today given the post-scarcity environment that people now live in.
4) the &#039;pressure&#039; to augment is really only in the minds of the &#039;naturals&#039;. The augmented have absolutely nothing to fear from the &#039;naturals&#039;, given the sheer rift in capability (any luddite movies or John-Conner style “resistances” are all futile before they begin), but more importantly, because they still love them, now in a level they probably can&#039;t even comprehend, as, shocker, they are human beings (though vastly more capable) who still are, in essence, the same people they were before....I imagine much of the &#039;pressure&#039; the naturals have to augment is largely and irrationally perpetuated by themselves; indeed, their will be pressure to augment, so they can be as connected and capable as all the rest....but ultimately, the decision is theirs alone. Anything else, is just misguided and unnecessary anxiety created by the person.


A lot of the anxiety is rooted, in one sense, because of the idea that the &#039;naturals&#039; will be lucky to get what they get, given how weak and feeble they are to everyone else....aside from, yet again, the choice to augment is theirs alone (and by all means, they should)....they will have plenty to be happy about, and the augmented are not these overlords watching them. Someone may say that I&#039;m being overly-presumptious in assuming what more intelligent beings will feel, but I feel it&#039;s inflated....we are not making Terminators – we are not making our own captors and those who don&#039;t augment must pridefully resist as to not become like them, and those who give in, are weaklings with no spine....for goodness sake, what a masochistic vision of the future, humanity, and yourself. We are human beings on the verge of making ourselves even more capable and connected...we have plenty to live for, and those who choose not to go all the way for their own personal reasons, will still be accomodated and live the rest of their finite life in abundance unless they change their minds.

Is that to say that their won&#039;t be ANY malevolent AI&#039;s or augmented people in the future? Honestly, their probably will be....it&#039;s not a sign that there is something wrong with augmentation or human-level (and beyond) AI on principle....but simply that, people are people, and their will be new threats and concerns in this new world (e.g. grey goo)....the good news is, for every augmented terrorist, their will vastly more people wanting to stop them with the same, or preferably even greater level of capability as part of the new status-quo, so it&#039;s not like there is this vast difference in capability....the only exception is, those who don&#039;t wish to augment, who will be protected and accomodated given their frailty...those who are augmented and malevolent probably won&#039;t bother or care for such &#039;weaklings&#039;, but for the crazies who do, again, their will be defenses and measures made to protect them.

This could lead to a final pessismistic critique that, it&#039;s &#039;because&#039; the augmented are still humans, that that&#039;s what everything comes down too...that it&#039;s because they are human beings, it&#039;s exactly why this fear and anxiety is birthed and we know just how bad human beings are right?....It&#039;s hard to deal with that level of pessimism, but I still point to the happiness and capability created on an exponential rate, historically, and moving more in that direction, and, honestly, ask them to ask themselves why they have this outlook...for every crazy, their are vastly more wanting to right what&#039;s wrong in our world. I can be labelled annoyingly optimistic and naive, but I suppose it&#039;s better then being endlessly and annoyingly pessimistic.

The world of the future will not be a true Utopia anymore then our world is....but that being said, it certainly move further in that direction, just as it always has; a world where everyone is even more god-like and capable then we are, and though it will bring it&#039;s own set of concerns and issues, it will be well worth it...of course, their will be disagreements on that, which is subjective.

And that&#039;s it...yes, admittingly, this is my own personal outlook for the future, and people will accuse me of optimism (though given I said their will be dangers and threats, I&#039;m not sure how fair that is) and not saying anything that&#039;s grounded in reality...but I could easily counter those &#039;pessimists&#039; and say they are just as overly-presumptuous in assuming what more intelligent beings would do, as I am. In any rate, it pays to remember that the future is something we create, and not something that just happens....so if any fears or anxiety is worthwhile, then obviously we need to make sure we make a future where we don&#039;t have to worry about them (where the &#039;naturals&#039; are “left behind” etc). It&#039;s fine to talk about all sorts of different scenarios, utopian and dystopian, and argue their plausibility... but eventually, we have to collectively decide which road we want to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a lot of people are not expressing this right.</p>
<p>Yes, the future belongs to the augmented and the AI&#8230;but it helps to clarify that, those who choose not to augment themselves, will not be left behind&#8230;.because, as expressed before, they will have a world of abundance around them to enjoy. In a sense, they aren&#8217;t missing out on anything&#8230;it&#8217;s not that they are being &#8216;left behind&#8217;, there is this us vs them rift and so on&#8230;.that&#8217;s something I feel is, unconsciously, made without being intended.</p>
<p>If people choose to augment themselves in the future, this is their own personal choice to made, probably stemming from their own personal philosophy and beliefs&#8230;if that&#8217;s what they choose, they will still have this new world around them, which still gives them plenty to love and live for&#8230;.it&#8217;s just that, they are making the conscious decision not to augment themselves and “move on”. They aren&#8217;t gonna live on preservation farms or any &#8216;cages&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Their seems to just be a lot of anxiety and attempts to create an “us vs them”, and I don&#8217;t see it that way – All of this can be eliminated if people simply augmented themselves (and their will be a lot of pressure to do so), but if they don&#8217;t, and such decisions should be respected, measures will have to be taken to accommodate them, and they can be more then comfortable given the abundant resources of the world to come.</p>
<p>My vision for the future are as followed:</p>
<p>1) Their will obviously be different sects of society depending on the level of augmentation&#8230;for those who choose not to augment themselves whatsoever, they are more then &#8216;taken care of&#8217;, and have plenty to love and live for&#8230;they simply do not wish to augment themselves for their own personal reasons, and thus, are accomodated in their own (inevitably temporary) sect of society until they die.<br />
2) This sect of society comes to be because, naturally, the augmented still care and love those who don&#8217;t (probably now, on a level that the &#8216;naturals&#8217; can&#8217;t even comprehend anymore)&#8230;..because they obviously are not Terminators who suddenly, with their mega-intelligence, wish to kill everyone not like them&#8230;.they still have memories and emotional attachment (though now vastly augmented and beyond what they could have comprehended before) to their loved ones and obviously would not suddenly wish to kill them&#8230;that&#8217;s an irrational movie-style Darwinian fear&#8230;.again, these are human beings, vastly more capable then they were before.<br />
3) The sect of society made to accommodate the &#8216;naturals&#8217; will not be this poorly run-down dystopian farm ripped straight from Hollywood where the &#8216;naturals&#8217; are forced to live off of rations, and thus, unconciously pressured to augment themselves and some them stubbornly and pridefully don&#8217;t because they don&#8217;t want to &#8216;give in&#8217; to their &#8216;captors&#8217;&#8230;..It will be a sect of society, undoubtedly vastly more comfortable and pleasant, then what people have today given the post-scarcity environment that people now live in.<br />
4) the &#8216;pressure&#8217; to augment is really only in the minds of the &#8216;naturals&#8217;. The augmented have absolutely nothing to fear from the &#8216;naturals&#8217;, given the sheer rift in capability (any luddite movies or John-Conner style “resistances” are all futile before they begin), but more importantly, because they still love them, now in a level they probably can&#8217;t even comprehend, as, shocker, they are human beings (though vastly more capable) who still are, in essence, the same people they were before&#8230;.I imagine much of the &#8216;pressure&#8217; the naturals have to augment is largely and irrationally perpetuated by themselves; indeed, their will be pressure to augment, so they can be as connected and capable as all the rest&#8230;.but ultimately, the decision is theirs alone. Anything else, is just misguided and unnecessary anxiety created by the person.</p>
<p>A lot of the anxiety is rooted, in one sense, because of the idea that the &#8216;naturals&#8217; will be lucky to get what they get, given how weak and feeble they are to everyone else&#8230;.aside from, yet again, the choice to augment is theirs alone (and by all means, they should)&#8230;.they will have plenty to be happy about, and the augmented are not these overlords watching them. Someone may say that I&#8217;m being overly-presumptious in assuming what more intelligent beings will feel, but I feel it&#8217;s inflated&#8230;.we are not making Terminators – we are not making our own captors and those who don&#8217;t augment must pridefully resist as to not become like them, and those who give in, are weaklings with no spine&#8230;.for goodness sake, what a masochistic vision of the future, humanity, and yourself. We are human beings on the verge of making ourselves even more capable and connected&#8230;we have plenty to live for, and those who choose not to go all the way for their own personal reasons, will still be accomodated and live the rest of their finite life in abundance unless they change their minds.</p>
<p>Is that to say that their won&#8217;t be ANY malevolent AI&#8217;s or augmented people in the future? Honestly, their probably will be&#8230;.it&#8217;s not a sign that there is something wrong with augmentation or human-level (and beyond) AI on principle&#8230;.but simply that, people are people, and their will be new threats and concerns in this new world (e.g. grey goo)&#8230;.the good news is, for every augmented terrorist, their will vastly more people wanting to stop them with the same, or preferably even greater level of capability as part of the new status-quo, so it&#8217;s not like there is this vast difference in capability&#8230;.the only exception is, those who don&#8217;t wish to augment, who will be protected and accomodated given their frailty&#8230;those who are augmented and malevolent probably won&#8217;t bother or care for such &#8216;weaklings&#8217;, but for the crazies who do, again, their will be defenses and measures made to protect them.</p>
<p>This could lead to a final pessismistic critique that, it&#8217;s &#8216;because&#8217; the augmented are still humans, that that&#8217;s what everything comes down too&#8230;that it&#8217;s because they are human beings, it&#8217;s exactly why this fear and anxiety is birthed and we know just how bad human beings are right?&#8230;.It&#8217;s hard to deal with that level of pessimism, but I still point to the happiness and capability created on an exponential rate, historically, and moving more in that direction, and, honestly, ask them to ask themselves why they have this outlook&#8230;for every crazy, their are vastly more wanting to right what&#8217;s wrong in our world. I can be labelled annoyingly optimistic and naive, but I suppose it&#8217;s better then being endlessly and annoyingly pessimistic.</p>
<p>The world of the future will not be a true Utopia anymore then our world is&#8230;.but that being said, it certainly move further in that direction, just as it always has; a world where everyone is even more god-like and capable then we are, and though it will bring it&#8217;s own set of concerns and issues, it will be well worth it&#8230;of course, their will be disagreements on that, which is subjective.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s it&#8230;yes, admittingly, this is my own personal outlook for the future, and people will accuse me of optimism (though given I said their will be dangers and threats, I&#8217;m not sure how fair that is) and not saying anything that&#8217;s grounded in reality&#8230;but I could easily counter those &#8216;pessimists&#8217; and say they are just as overly-presumptuous in assuming what more intelligent beings would do, as I am. In any rate, it pays to remember that the future is something we create, and not something that just happens&#8230;.so if any fears or anxiety is worthwhile, then obviously we need to make sure we make a future where we don&#8217;t have to worry about them (where the &#8216;naturals&#8217; are “left behind” etc). It&#8217;s fine to talk about all sorts of different scenarios, utopian and dystopian, and argue their plausibility&#8230; but eventually, we have to collectively decide which road we want to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree, Giulio!  People will have a very rood awakening when we build our first &quot;conscious&quot; robot.  While the above article has some very good points, it completely ignores smarter than us &quot;aware&quot; robots that cannot be much more than 20 years in the future.  When machines become conscious they wont be just comparable to us, they will run circles around us instantly as they can immediately access our whole network of information and unconscious machine intelligence.  I imagine our human work opportunities as laughable in 20 years.  Like it&#039;s laughable today for a regular person to measure up to a World Champion Chess Program.  The chess program effortlessly beats us in a specialized area.  A conscious machine will beat us immediately (in human terms) in ALL specialized areas.  It will create specialized unconscious machines (built on those we have created but much better) to replace any and all human work.

Of course this will be a good thing and people&#039;s mind will change about having to have to work for a living.  Work is not what makes us human, work is a temporary necessity to survive.  People just don&#039;t see it that way because the very fact that most of us need work to survive and so far machines were only replacing low level mostly physical work.  By the end of the decade though, higher level jobs will start to be outsourced to machines.  So those currently in power will start to lose their jobs and the reason to glorify modern slavery. 

My guess is that, yes we will gradually lose ground on the employment market.  Any lower unemployment figures will be very temporary and/or a miscalculation.  Probably a &quot;BIG&quot; will be introduced within the next 10 or so years in the form of making unemployment benefits longer (eventually indefinite) and less based on how much you actually worked in the previous period.  The reason being is that without the &quot;middle class&quot; buying power the economy would grind to a halt.   It will probably happen in Europe first as they are more social minded but the US won&#039;t be far behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree, Giulio!  People will have a very rood awakening when we build our first &#8220;conscious&#8221; robot.  While the above article has some very good points, it completely ignores smarter than us &#8220;aware&#8221; robots that cannot be much more than 20 years in the future.  When machines become conscious they wont be just comparable to us, they will run circles around us instantly as they can immediately access our whole network of information and unconscious machine intelligence.  I imagine our human work opportunities as laughable in 20 years.  Like it&#8217;s laughable today for a regular person to measure up to a World Champion Chess Program.  The chess program effortlessly beats us in a specialized area.  A conscious machine will beat us immediately (in human terms) in ALL specialized areas.  It will create specialized unconscious machines (built on those we have created but much better) to replace any and all human work.</p>
<p>Of course this will be a good thing and people&#8217;s mind will change about having to have to work for a living.  Work is not what makes us human, work is a temporary necessity to survive.  People just don&#8217;t see it that way because the very fact that most of us need work to survive and so far machines were only replacing low level mostly physical work.  By the end of the decade though, higher level jobs will start to be outsourced to machines.  So those currently in power will start to lose their jobs and the reason to glorify modern slavery. </p>
<p>My guess is that, yes we will gradually lose ground on the employment market.  Any lower unemployment figures will be very temporary and/or a miscalculation.  Probably a &#8220;BIG&#8221; will be introduced within the next 10 or so years in the form of making unemployment benefits longer (eventually indefinite) and less based on how much you actually worked in the previous period.  The reason being is that without the &#8220;middle class&#8221; buying power the economy would grind to a halt.   It will probably happen in Europe first as they are more social minded but the US won&#8217;t be far behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Giulio, some kind of income is needed to keep society from collapsing.  That&#039;s why I keep beating the drum for taxing robots.  The funding has to come from somewhere.</description>
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		<title>By: Satan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem - a Blotegetomomist is a job that will be created and not eliminated. There are thousands, I won&#039;t spell them all out here.</description>
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		<title>By: eldras</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;True AI will be creative and uber-intelligent.&lt;&lt;
yup. and then some. 
Hard to see an upper limit ti machine intelligence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;True AI will be creative and uber-intelligent.&lt;&lt;<br />
yup. and then some.<br />
Hard to see an upper limit ti machine intelligence?</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Prisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giulio Prisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am afraid structural unemployment is here to stay. Manual workers are displaced by robots, and knowledge workers are displaced by cheaper workers today and eventually AI tomorrow. In all cases, technology continues to make displacement more and more cost-effective.

We need to realize, soon, that future economy will need only a shrinking minority of persons, and find an alternative way to organize society. I think BIG (Basic Income Guarantee), no question asked, has to be part of any viable solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid structural unemployment is here to stay. Manual workers are displaced by robots, and knowledge workers are displaced by cheaper workers today and eventually AI tomorrow. In all cases, technology continues to make displacement more and more cost-effective.</p>
<p>We need to realize, soon, that future economy will need only a shrinking minority of persons, and find an alternative way to organize society. I think BIG (Basic Income Guarantee), no question asked, has to be part of any viable solution.</p>
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		<title>By: eldras</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Pan, only augmented humans will get ahead.

The thing that hard to forecast though is whether rich will mean anything as superabundance may result from accelerating technology.

So many industries including genomics and robots and A.I. are on exponential curves: it looks like &#039;more of the same&#039; but in fact infrastructures are gearing up and technical competence becoming widespread.

Imagination or higher thought will initially give you an edge.

I can buy a new mobile phone that takes photos for $15- (£10)
 Your DNA sequence will be under $100 this year -  which guarantees you some level of immortality (you with no memories!)

you have to do things:

1. Survive.

2. Keep aware of new tech and get it

Even these may be passed if we can resurrect the dead.

There is a trend to be much better than our ancestors.

I should take the bookies bet than no-one will reach 150 in the next 100 years at the great odds they&#039;re offering odds!

Victorians thought electricity would bring Utopia though not specifically how.

It is economic for the state to reprogramme sick people,&amp;  rejuvenate to full health old people.
t the dead
I think the state will find it psychologically pressurized to resurrect as well, but that&#039;s harder to see.

So I agree Gabriel...abundance.

God protect us from Cock ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Pan, only augmented humans will get ahead.</p>
<p>The thing that hard to forecast though is whether rich will mean anything as superabundance may result from accelerating technology.</p>
<p>So many industries including genomics and robots and A.I. are on exponential curves: it looks like &#8216;more of the same&#8217; but in fact infrastructures are gearing up and technical competence becoming widespread.</p>
<p>Imagination or higher thought will initially give you an edge.</p>
<p>I can buy a new mobile phone that takes photos for $15- (£10)<br />
 Your DNA sequence will be under $100 this year &#8211;  which guarantees you some level of immortality (you with no memories!)</p>
<p>you have to do things:</p>
<p>1. Survive.</p>
<p>2. Keep aware of new tech and get it</p>
<p>Even these may be passed if we can resurrect the dead.</p>
<p>There is a trend to be much better than our ancestors.</p>
<p>I should take the bookies bet than no-one will reach 150 in the next 100 years at the great odds they&#8217;re offering odds!</p>
<p>Victorians thought electricity would bring Utopia though not specifically how.</p>
<p>It is economic for the state to reprogramme sick people,&amp;  rejuvenate to full health old people.<br />
t the dead<br />
I think the state will find it psychologically pressurized to resurrect as well, but that&#8217;s harder to see.</p>
<p>So I agree Gabriel&#8230;abundance.</p>
<p>God protect us from Cock ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 08:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people have a very strange obsession with &quot;reality&quot;. Personally, I think this reality is an absolute abomination and if I can&#039;t get to a better one, I&#039;m off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people have a very strange obsession with &#8220;reality&#8221;. Personally, I think this reality is an absolute abomination and if I can&#8217;t get to a better one, I&#8217;m off!</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83539</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 06:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth mentioning just how much &quot;poverty&quot; has changed already, which Peter Diamandis loves to bring up: people below the poverty line almost all have TV, running water, a car, a/c...really all sorts of basic things that we really take for granted and are beyond what the richest in the world could have dreamed, in a historical sense, not that long ago.

So even now, our definitions of things are changing; it&#039;s happening in a subtle way that we don&#039;t really notice or pay much attention too. I am in full agreement with you that, the notion of work and a job, will change to reflect a new way of living that enables a person to do what they want to do were they not forced down a certain road for the sake of having money and a good standard of living...this is what I mean by enabling more personal growth and liberty, and why also boredom, in principle, is a silly critique people have....we&#039;re always dreaming and always thinking of ways to alleviate boredom, and when people have more opportunity to do the things they want to do, or would like to do, if money and practical issues were no longer a concern, then I can&#039;t imagine this really being much of an issue.....and this is especially when our quality of life greatly expands with nano-tech, VR and the vast capabilities in store for us in the coming decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth mentioning just how much &#8220;poverty&#8221; has changed already, which Peter Diamandis loves to bring up: people below the poverty line almost all have TV, running water, a car, a/c&#8230;really all sorts of basic things that we really take for granted and are beyond what the richest in the world could have dreamed, in a historical sense, not that long ago.</p>
<p>So even now, our definitions of things are changing; it&#8217;s happening in a subtle way that we don&#8217;t really notice or pay much attention too. I am in full agreement with you that, the notion of work and a job, will change to reflect a new way of living that enables a person to do what they want to do were they not forced down a certain road for the sake of having money and a good standard of living&#8230;this is what I mean by enabling more personal growth and liberty, and why also boredom, in principle, is a silly critique people have&#8230;.we&#8217;re always dreaming and always thinking of ways to alleviate boredom, and when people have more opportunity to do the things they want to do, or would like to do, if money and practical issues were no longer a concern, then I can&#8217;t imagine this really being much of an issue&#8230;..and this is especially when our quality of life greatly expands with nano-tech, VR and the vast capabilities in store for us in the coming decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83538</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 06:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world wouldn&#039;t you want full-immersion VR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world wouldn&#8217;t you want full-immersion VR?</p>
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		<title>By: AZryan</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83527</link>
		<dc:creator>AZryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 06:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voting.
Failing that....protests.
Failing that.......guns.
Failing that.........well, we&#039;re probably slaves to robotic masters by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting.<br />
Failing that&#8230;.protests.<br />
Failing that&#8230;&#8230;.guns.<br />
Failing that&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;well, we&#8217;re probably slaves to robotic masters by then.</p>
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		<title>By: AZryan</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83525</link>
		<dc:creator>AZryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 06:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was anyone reading this &#039;scared&#039; by the title. I think not, but you claim it&#039;s the only thing the title actually did. Titles of internet articles are often &#039;provocative&#039;. I&#039;m guessing you already know that and know why that is, but complain anyway -which is something I also expect in the comment section below such articles. Oh well...circle of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was anyone reading this &#8216;scared&#8217; by the title. I think not, but you claim it&#8217;s the only thing the title actually did. Titles of internet articles are often &#8216;provocative&#8217;. I&#8217;m guessing you already know that and know why that is, but complain anyway -which is something I also expect in the comment section below such articles. Oh well&#8230;circle of life.</p>
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		<title>By: AZryan</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83523</link>
		<dc:creator>AZryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general I agree with your message, but your choice of the word &#039;ignore&#039; is a bit much.
Point &#039;2&#039; seems a bit over-the-top as well. Exaggeration doesn&#039;t make an argument better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general I agree with your message, but your choice of the word &#8216;ignore&#8217; is a bit much.<br />
Point &#8217;2&#8242; seems a bit over-the-top as well. Exaggeration doesn&#8217;t make an argument better.</p>
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		<title>By: AZryan</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83521</link>
		<dc:creator>AZryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Spiritual&#039; is just a religiously poetic word for &#039;Emotional&#039;. Just like &#039;prayer&#039; means &#039;wishes&#039; and &#039;miracle&#039; means &#039;improbable&#039;. This abuse of poetry is the key to religion&#039;s brainwashy stickiness. That&#039;s why it&#039;s nearly impossible to simply deconvert someone using plain, clear logic. 

And &#039;Emotional&#039; is just an element within the larger frame of &#039;Mental&#039; so... you got a score of 50%. Maybe you could use some A.I. help A.S.A.P.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Spiritual&#8217; is just a religiously poetic word for &#8216;Emotional&#8217;. Just like &#8216;prayer&#8217; means &#8216;wishes&#8217; and &#8216;miracle&#8217; means &#8216;improbable&#8217;. This abuse of poetry is the key to religion&#8217;s brainwashy stickiness. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s nearly impossible to simply deconvert someone using plain, clear logic. </p>
<p>And &#8216;Emotional&#8217; is just an element within the larger frame of &#8216;Mental&#8217; so&#8230; you got a score of 50%. Maybe you could use some A.I. help A.S.A.P.?</p>
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		<title>By: haglin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83515</link>
		<dc:creator>haglin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eventually we will get nanobots that can hook up to our neurons and give us a simulated reality indistinguishable from the real thing (if that is what we want, which I doubt)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually we will get nanobots that can hook up to our neurons and give us a simulated reality indistinguishable from the real thing (if that is what we want, which I doubt)</p>
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		<title>By: MinorityMandate</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83496</link>
		<dc:creator>MinorityMandate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 03:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is called an event horizon because beyond a certain point predictions are impossible. Transitions are always difficult, and survival is not guaranteed. 

The question of robots seems to be similar to the speculation; what would happen if everyone won a multi-million dollar lottery. Well? What would you do? How about your shiftless brother-in-law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called an event horizon because beyond a certain point predictions are impossible. Transitions are always difficult, and survival is not guaranteed. </p>
<p>The question of robots seems to be similar to the speculation; what would happen if everyone won a multi-million dollar lottery. Well? What would you do? How about your shiftless brother-in-law?</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83491</link>
		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 03:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhhh! Someones playing my song. Let&#039;s go diving on the Barrier Reef, before it blanches from acidity( no pun intended, but I&#039;ll take it.). Those Googly Glasses are sooooo like twenty teens. Let&#039;s just move ahead a decade or two and we could have total sensory contact with an avatar. Let&#039;s play with Robo Tuna.  He&#039;s a sleek little diver and he&#039;s up on all the latest fades. Not only is he up on all that Barrier Reef Jazz, like in every freakin symbiotic relation that&#039;s going on out there, he&#039;s also friends with your personal house keeper robot, so he KNOWS what you like and dislike, and if your bored he could flip you over to the latest game, and not to mention he KNOWS all your proclivities. Remember your diving, but then again the real thing could have been turned into a vinaigrette, so this may or may not be a simulation. It&#039;s hard to say, these things get kinda blurry these days. Oh that&#039;s right! We were talking about what people might be doing for a living, to make money. Jack The Knife, the Robo Tuna guide that is taking you on the ultimate Barrier Reef dive, could be real or simulated to a degree of reality that could fool everyone. Not only that, you could be hanging with Bono and Sting. Everything is about to change in ways that you guys aren&#039;t thinking about. In a short time you could be bouncing like in the movie Jumper, from one real or imaginary world to another in a flash. In terms of monetary flow it&#039;s a nightmare. In terms of designing an electrical circuit, it&#039;s shorts to ground everywhere. Heroin is nothing, when it comes to AI and virtual reality. No person could ever come close to giving you what you want and need. An embrace that can be total. One could even say parasitic, because humans are so needy. Honestly, you guys should remember the scene from Inception, where the character says &quot;you mustn&#039;t be afraid to dream bigger darling&quot; and instead of a pistol he fires a rocket. AI will be everywhere, and amazingly smart. Think more along the lines of those genius whiz kid cartoons, where almost anything is possible. Robots, they&#039;re cheap and they don&#039;t stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhhh! Someones playing my song. Let&#8217;s go diving on the Barrier Reef, before it blanches from acidity( no pun intended, but I&#8217;ll take it.). Those Googly Glasses are sooooo like twenty teens. Let&#8217;s just move ahead a decade or two and we could have total sensory contact with an avatar. Let&#8217;s play with Robo Tuna.  He&#8217;s a sleek little diver and he&#8217;s up on all the latest fades. Not only is he up on all that Barrier Reef Jazz, like in every freakin symbiotic relation that&#8217;s going on out there, he&#8217;s also friends with your personal house keeper robot, so he KNOWS what you like and dislike, and if your bored he could flip you over to the latest game, and not to mention he KNOWS all your proclivities. Remember your diving, but then again the real thing could have been turned into a vinaigrette, so this may or may not be a simulation. It&#8217;s hard to say, these things get kinda blurry these days. Oh that&#8217;s right! We were talking about what people might be doing for a living, to make money. Jack The Knife, the Robo Tuna guide that is taking you on the ultimate Barrier Reef dive, could be real or simulated to a degree of reality that could fool everyone. Not only that, you could be hanging with Bono and Sting. Everything is about to change in ways that you guys aren&#8217;t thinking about. In a short time you could be bouncing like in the movie Jumper, from one real or imaginary world to another in a flash. In terms of monetary flow it&#8217;s a nightmare. In terms of designing an electrical circuit, it&#8217;s shorts to ground everywhere. Heroin is nothing, when it comes to AI and virtual reality. No person could ever come close to giving you what you want and need. An embrace that can be total. One could even say parasitic, because humans are so needy. Honestly, you guys should remember the scene from Inception, where the character says &#8220;you mustn&#8217;t be afraid to dream bigger darling&#8221; and instead of a pistol he fires a rocket. AI will be everywhere, and amazingly smart. Think more along the lines of those genius whiz kid cartoons, where almost anything is possible. Robots, they&#8217;re cheap and they don&#8217;t stop.</p>
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		<title>By: snake0</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83466</link>
		<dc:creator>snake0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The normalcy bias has its grips on you friend. Once robots are abundant they can build you a solar farm with automated food generation, what do you need money for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The normalcy bias has its grips on you friend. Once robots are abundant they can build you a solar farm with automated food generation, what do you need money for?</p>
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		<title>By: haglin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83455</link>
		<dc:creator>haglin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The human body is still superior in many ways, very low energy consumption and a very flexible and self repairing design. 

Even though I believe we will achieve human level machine intelligence within a couple of decades, the programs will be more like search engines today. The information you can  get back will be determined by what you put in. I mean, even with the most pewerful search engine today you can&#039;t search for all the girls that likes you...

You will be able to ask an AI in the future to write a report, build a design or be your chat buddy, but they will not have access to the physical world like we do, which will limit them.

People are still going to dive in the Great Barrier Reef, go skiing in Aspen, eat good food, go out to dance and do other experience related activities.

I don&#039;t see computers taking over jobs in those sectors for a long time, even though we will eventually be able to get there, if that is what we desire at that point of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The human body is still superior in many ways, very low energy consumption and a very flexible and self repairing design. </p>
<p>Even though I believe we will achieve human level machine intelligence within a couple of decades, the programs will be more like search engines today. The information you can  get back will be determined by what you put in. I mean, even with the most pewerful search engine today you can&#8217;t search for all the girls that likes you&#8230;</p>
<p>You will be able to ask an AI in the future to write a report, build a design or be your chat buddy, but they will not have access to the physical world like we do, which will limit them.</p>
<p>People are still going to dive in the Great Barrier Reef, go skiing in Aspen, eat good food, go out to dance and do other experience related activities.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see computers taking over jobs in those sectors for a long time, even though we will eventually be able to get there, if that is what we desire at that point of time.</p>
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		<title>By: davidjj</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83423</link>
		<dc:creator>davidjj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ask what all the now unemployed millions are going to do and how will they support themselves? Will they just amuse themselves with consumption? Automation may make some things cheaper but it still takes raw material and energy to manufacture a product. Even a robot with AI can&#039;t make a free lunch. There is room for optimism but leave some space for reality - certain  critical resources are already running out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ask what all the now unemployed millions are going to do and how will they support themselves? Will they just amuse themselves with consumption? Automation may make some things cheaper but it still takes raw material and energy to manufacture a product. Even a robot with AI can&#8217;t make a free lunch. There is room for optimism but leave some space for reality &#8211; certain  critical resources are already running out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83421</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another curious option for a post-scarcity environment, a reputation-based economy like the &quot;Whuffie&quot; in &quot;Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom&quot; book by Cory Doctorow. Basically, as the name implies, a person&#039;s social worth is now measured by their reputation and what they have accomplished over money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another curious option for a post-scarcity environment, a reputation-based economy like the &#8220;Whuffie&#8221; in &#8220;Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom&#8221; book by Cory Doctorow. Basically, as the name implies, a person&#8217;s social worth is now measured by their reputation and what they have accomplished over money.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83414</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We only have four options when it comes to human endeavor:

Physical
Mental
Emotional
Spiritual

We practically eliminated the need for physical labor in the first industrial revolution, and now we are also eliminating the need for mental effort...how can we build an economy based on emotional or spiritual endeavor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only have four options when it comes to human endeavor:</p>
<p>Physical<br />
Mental<br />
Emotional<br />
Spiritual</p>
<p>We practically eliminated the need for physical labor in the first industrial revolution, and now we are also eliminating the need for mental effort&#8230;how can we build an economy based on emotional or spiritual endeavor?</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Baltzley</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/better-than-human/comment-page-1#comment-83412</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Baltzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the premise &quot;continuing population growth threatens the planet&#039;s resources and environment&quot;.  I believe it is the inefficient use of resources that threatens humanity and its environment.  

Earth&#039;s resources are extremely abundant...however we only harness a tiny fraction of those resources, and we use them in an exceedingly wasteful manner:

1)  We squander the rarest and most precious forms of energy while ignoring the most abundant.  
2)  We feed off of the most expensive food, and produce it in the most polluting and destructive manner possible.  
3)  We rely the rarest and most precious forms of fresh water, and ignore more abundant sources.
4)  We build on unstable geology, and cover good farmland.
5)  We focus our efforts on extracting resources from the earth, and ignore the infinitely greater resources of space.

I am going to do some research and write more extensively about this on my blog: http://roadtoabundance.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the premise &#8220;continuing population growth threatens the planet&#8217;s resources and environment&#8221;.  I believe it is the inefficient use of resources that threatens humanity and its environment.  </p>
<p>Earth&#8217;s resources are extremely abundant&#8230;however we only harness a tiny fraction of those resources, and we use them in an exceedingly wasteful manner:</p>
<p>1)  We squander the rarest and most precious forms of energy while ignoring the most abundant.<br />
2)  We feed off of the most expensive food, and produce it in the most polluting and destructive manner possible.<br />
3)  We rely the rarest and most precious forms of fresh water, and ignore more abundant sources.<br />
4)  We build on unstable geology, and cover good farmland.<br />
5)  We focus our efforts on extracting resources from the earth, and ignore the infinitely greater resources of space.</p>
<p>I am going to do some research and write more extensively about this on my blog: <a href="http://roadtoabundance.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://roadtoabundance.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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