Comments on: Black boxes to be required in all new cars from 2015 http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015 Accelerating Intelligence Sat, 25 May 2013 06:03:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Dave http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-23914 Dave Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:44:18 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-23914 A new barrier to entry for small business great...... A new barrier to entry for small business great……

]]> By: SpottedMarley http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-18750 SpottedMarley Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:54:13 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-18750 FIne by me. I've already bought my last new vehicle :) and it doesn't have a spy-bot in it. FIne by me. I’ve already bought my last new vehicle :) and it doesn’t have a spy-bot in it.

]]> By: robert http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-16769 robert Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:24:00 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-16769 Shaun just ignore him. Not everyone can live in our perfect ayn rand society. Just the ones that were blessed with a tin foil hat. ;) Shaun just ignore him. Not everyone can live in our perfect ayn rand society. Just the ones that were blessed with a tin foil hat. ;)

]]> By: TFC http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-16201 TFC Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:31:59 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-16201 This monitoring is nothing compared to what will be possible when ALL cars will need GPS and transponders to integrate most of them into the future smart traffic control systems. All those cars talking to each other and to the smart traffic grid so your info will broadcast everywhere to everyone. Enjoy. This monitoring is nothing compared to what will be possible when ALL cars will need GPS and transponders to integrate most of them into the future smart traffic control systems. All those cars talking to each other and to the smart traffic grid so your info will broadcast everywhere to everyone. Enjoy.

]]> By: Joel http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-15791 Joel Fri, 25 May 2012 15:31:27 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-15791 Interestingly, the Supreme Court in 1958 in kent vs dulles, ruled that denying a passport violates a citizens Constitutional rights. Freedom of movement, the freedom to go where you wish in the manner you wish, and to travel abroad is a fundamental right, and cannot be revoked. For the servants of the people to require those they serve to obtain permission to exercise their rights is to essentially surrender those rights. This is exactly the possibility presented by this black box. Interestingly, the Supreme Court in 1958 in kent vs dulles, ruled that denying a passport violates a citizens Constitutional rights. Freedom of movement, the freedom to go where you wish in the manner you wish, and to travel abroad is a fundamental right, and cannot be revoked. For the servants of the people to require those they serve to obtain permission to exercise their rights is to essentially surrender those rights. This is exactly the possibility presented by this black box.

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14558 Editor Thu, 03 May 2012 12:40:13 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14558 Thanks, Keith. Corrected. Thanks, Keith. Corrected.

]]> By: Keith Johnson http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14554 Keith Johnson Thu, 03 May 2012 10:59:18 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14554 The Senator from Nevada is Harry REID. If we're going to give him his richly deserved opprobrium, let's at least spell his name correctly. The Senator from Nevada is Harry REID. If we’re going to give him his richly deserved opprobrium, let’s at least spell his name correctly.

]]> By: shaun http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14461 shaun Tue, 01 May 2012 15:24:38 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14461 phoenix, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss. Infowars breaks many true and important stories before other mainstream sources.. or wait, you think taxes and big government are good hahahha check out austrian economics and libertarian theories and get back to me.. phoenix, maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss. Infowars breaks many true and important stories before other mainstream sources.. or wait, you think taxes and big government are good hahahha
check out austrian economics and libertarian theories and get back to me..

]]> By: Jamie http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14420 Jamie Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:07:42 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14420 Awesome! Now I have an excuse to buy the 68' Impala I have always wanted. The big question is, what do I drive in the winter since I live about 70 miles north of Toronto? An early VW bug? With a gasoline heater? :( At least they are good in the snow.... Awesome! Now I have an excuse to buy the 68′ Impala I have always wanted. The big question is, what do I drive in the winter since I live about 70 miles north of Toronto? An early VW bug? With a gasoline heater? :(

At least they are good in the snow….

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14345 Editor Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:44:44 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14345 Actually, no. The windows are not shielded, there are leaks, and it's not grounded, which is why cell phones still work (although not as well) in a car. Actually, no. The windows are not shielded, there are leaks, and it’s not grounded, which is why cell phones still work (although not as well) in a car.

]]> By: cosmowrench http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14340 cosmowrench Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:34:14 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14340 Isnt a car a good faraday cage? :p Isnt a car a good faraday cage? :p

]]> By: Cybernettr http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14308 Cybernettr Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:30:50 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14308 <i>Biometric face-recognition and transdermal sensor technology that prevents an inebriated person from driving a car by disabling the automobile has already been developed in the U.K., in addition to systems that refuse to allow the vehicle to start if the driver is deemed to be overtired.</i> This all becomes a moot point since driverless cars are likely to come along before this becomes widespread. Maybe those with prior drunk driving convictions but that's it. Biometric face-recognition and transdermal sensor technology that prevents an inebriated person from driving a car by disabling the automobile has already been developed in the U.K., in addition to systems that refuse to allow the vehicle to start if the driver is deemed to be overtired.

This all becomes a moot point since driverless cars are likely to come along before this becomes widespread. Maybe those with prior drunk driving convictions but that’s it.

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14238 Editor Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:09:58 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14238 Right, I had in mind older cars with no chips. Right, I had in mind older cars with no chips.

]]> By: Ernesto http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14236 Ernesto Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:48:58 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14236 Modern conventional cars would still be rendered dead after an emp attack. All ignition timing is done through the CPU in the car, along with cam angles, fuel/air ratios, and maybe more depending on the car. Modern conventional cars would still be rendered dead after an emp attack. All ignition timing is done through the CPU in the car, along with cam angles, fuel/air ratios, and maybe more depending on the car.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14049 Patrick Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:26:53 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14049 “mandatory event data recorders” Fine by me if it's open-source and off-line, and I can switch it with one from a different company, etc. that has the same requirements. Now, if the government just wants me to put in a true black box (which it would probably try) that may have RFID, report to the internet, etc. oh, HELL no. It's a very fine line that the government has shown they have no problem crossing time and time again. I believe that would be a violation of 4th Am. rights and we should all just collectively take them out. “mandatory event data recorders” Fine by me if it’s open-source and off-line, and I can switch it with one from a different company, etc. that has the same requirements.

Now, if the government just wants me to put in a true black box (which it would probably try) that may have RFID, report to the internet, etc. oh, HELL no. It’s a very fine line that the government has shown they have no problem crossing time and time again. I believe that would be a violation of 4th Am. rights and we should all just collectively take them out.

]]> By: phoenix http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14048 phoenix Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:17:32 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14048 infowars as a source? ..weak.. infowars as a source?

..weak..

]]> By: Smetlavich http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14043 Smetlavich Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:33:18 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14043 Asteroid 2011 AG5 can't arrive quickly enough. Asteroid 2011 AG5 can’t arrive quickly enough.

]]> By: Khannea Suntzu http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14018 Khannea Suntzu Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:50:57 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14018 If you don't break the law, you car users have nothing to hide? Where have I heard that nonsense all over again and again? Besides I don't own a car and wouldn't want to anyways. If you don’t break the law, you car users have nothing to hide? Where have I heard that nonsense all over again and again?

Besides I don’t own a car and wouldn’t want to anyways.

]]> By: Gabor http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14014 Gabor Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:31:43 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14014 ...and the fun begins...resistance is futile... :o) …and the fun begins…resistance is futile… :o)

]]> By: tim333 http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14008 tim333 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:34:00 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14008 Yeah. but that's different from having a legal requirement that the government can access your data Yeah. but that’s different from having a legal requirement that the government can access your data

]]> By: Daniel http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-14007 Daniel Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:33:36 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-14007 Just another intrusion by your friendly government forcing you to buy something that you probably don't want. But, hey, who could object to Big Brother? We all know he has the best of intentions. Just look at Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed and Barack Obama. Don't you want them deciding what you should buy and how you should live. After all, aren't they wiser, smarter, more moral and just all around better than Joe Sixpack? Who could object? Just another intrusion by your friendly government forcing you to buy something that you probably don’t want. But, hey, who could object to Big Brother? We all know he has the best of intentions. Just look at Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed and Barack Obama. Don’t you want them deciding what you should buy and how you should live. After all, aren’t they wiser, smarter, more moral and just all around better than Joe Sixpack? Who could object?

]]> By: cosmowrench http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-13994 cosmowrench Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:21:45 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-13994 I dont see whats the problem...Think cellphone...do you have control over what data it sends to whom? No!! All your texts conversations, appointments, contacts, pictures, location data etc. It could be sending all that data to God knows who, without you ever being aware of it. Same goes for your computer. The moment you turn it on, it connects to the internet, but what exactly is it sending and recieving? Maybe its participating in some DoS attack or just checking for updates...who knows. We are long past the point that we are in control of the data we spread. After reading the comments on that site, actually its kinda funny, now that they wanna touch the "holy car" people suddenly act like they give a s^*%. I dont see whats the problem…Think cellphone…do you have control over what data it sends to whom? No!! All your texts conversations, appointments, contacts, pictures, location data etc. It could be sending all that data to God knows who, without you ever being aware of it.
Same goes for your computer. The moment you turn it on, it connects to the internet, but what exactly is it sending and recieving? Maybe its participating in some DoS attack or just checking for updates…who knows. We are long past the point that we are in control of the data we spread. After reading the comments on that site, actually its kinda funny, now that they wanna touch the “holy car” people suddenly act like they give a s^*%.

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-13987 Editor Mon, 23 Apr 2012 07:15:54 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-13987 Yes, preferably non-electronic cars, which we'll need after the coming EMP attack. Yes, preferably non-electronic cars, which we’ll need after the coming EMP attack.

]]> By: melajara http://www.kurzweilai.net/black-boxes-to-be-required-in-all-new-cars-from-2015/comment-page-1#comment-13986 melajara Mon, 23 Apr 2012 07:11:03 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=149275#comment-13986 “mandatory event data recorders” to be installed in all new passenger motor vehicles sold in the U.S. Well, your article will give me even more reasons to favor over NEW vehicles/spies a collector's item like a glamorous Jaguar MK2 :) “mandatory event data recorders” to be installed in all new passenger motor vehicles sold in the U.S.

Well, your article will give me even more reasons to favor over NEW vehicles/spies a collector’s item like a glamorous Jaguar MK2 :)

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