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	<title>Comments on: book review &#124; Human+ &#8212; smartdust, spooks, psychics, and transhumans</title>
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		<title>By: Mrpr0phecy</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-84506</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrpr0phecy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculous basically, leave my brain alone, it&#039;s mine.......... Read your own thoughts and if they&#039;re not interesting enough, that is not my fault.  Maybe you should read better books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous basically, leave my brain alone, it&#8217;s mine&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Read your own thoughts and if they&#8217;re not interesting enough, that is not my fault.  Maybe you should read better books.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Correa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Correa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human + seems very exciting and one thing reminds me that I look forward to the discussions on the topic .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human + seems very exciting and one thing reminds me that I look forward to the discussions on the topic .</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-34237</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are telepathy and precognition legitimate, they have been vigorously demonstrated as such. See the work of Professor Emeritus, Stanford University, William Tiller, and the work of the crew at the Institute of HeartMath: http://www.tiller.org/; http://www.heartmath.org/free-services/articles-of-the-heart/new-study-further-supports-intuition.html. 

The HeartMath people refer to precog as intuition but if you read their three case studies you see they&#039;re really witnessing precog. William Tiller not only provides a scientifically rigorous framework for the existence of psi abilities, he answers the question of Dark Matter/Dark Energy at the same time . . . and in a very elegant manner. Read all of his freely distributed white papers. If you still have doubts after all of this, watch the documentary, The Yogis of Tibet, found here: http://theyogisoftibet.com/. And if you&#039;re still not convinced check out the studies conducted by Herbert Benson and his crew, especially the work of Sara Lazar available here: http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~lazar/. 

If you&#039;re not convinced after all of that then go back to sleep; I&#039;m sorry I woke you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are telepathy and precognition legitimate, they have been vigorously demonstrated as such. See the work of Professor Emeritus, Stanford University, William Tiller, and the work of the crew at the Institute of HeartMath: <a href="http://www.tiller.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tiller.org/</a>; <a href="http://www.heartmath.org/free-services/articles-of-the-heart/new-study-further-supports-intuition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.heartmath.org/free-services/articles-of-the-heart/new-study-further-supports-intuition.html</a>. </p>
<p>The HeartMath people refer to precog as intuition but if you read their three case studies you see they&#8217;re really witnessing precog. William Tiller not only provides a scientifically rigorous framework for the existence of psi abilities, he answers the question of Dark Matter/Dark Energy at the same time . . . and in a very elegant manner. Read all of his freely distributed white papers. If you still have doubts after all of this, watch the documentary, The Yogis of Tibet, found here: <a href="http://theyogisoftibet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://theyogisoftibet.com/</a>. And if you&#8217;re still not convinced check out the studies conducted by Herbert Benson and his crew, especially the work of Sara Lazar available here: <a href="http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~lazar/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~lazar/</a>. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not convinced after all of that then go back to sleep; I&#8217;m sorry I woke you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33785</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think switching between critical evaluation and motivated creation/conduct is a matter of &quot;training&quot;.

If nature were that strong in this regard, how can one explain that people with better education are generally more skeptic than others?

I think nurture is underestimated, especially since people outside the social sciences tend mostly look at instituational influences, and maybe geography (along the fallacious lines of &quot;you are biased because you live there, therefore I know better&quot;) and income.
  
Concerning not having preferences:I meant to say that these preferences are a matter of degree and can be partly countered by values like striving for objectivity.

Values and goals, and aiming high, imho are useful for what they make you do (or don&#039;t do) and not necessarely for reaching them.If someone does not even try to be balanced (e.g neither optimistic nor pessimistic, but realistic) he&#039;ll probably be a good deal more subjective, sometimes even unscientific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think switching between critical evaluation and motivated creation/conduct is a matter of &#8220;training&#8221;.</p>
<p>If nature were that strong in this regard, how can one explain that people with better education are generally more skeptic than others?</p>
<p>I think nurture is underestimated, especially since people outside the social sciences tend mostly look at instituational influences, and maybe geography (along the fallacious lines of &#8220;you are biased because you live there, therefore I know better&#8221;) and income.</p>
<p>Concerning not having preferences:I meant to say that these preferences are a matter of degree and can be partly countered by values like striving for objectivity.</p>
<p>Values and goals, and aiming high, imho are useful for what they make you do (or don&#8217;t do) and not necessarely for reaching them.If someone does not even try to be balanced (e.g neither optimistic nor pessimistic, but realistic) he&#8217;ll probably be a good deal more subjective, sometimes even unscientific.</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Prisco</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33782</link>
		<dc:creator>Giulio Prisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;only so much time,&quot; very true.

I think it is nearly impossible not to have preferences, and the best we can do is not to let our preferences interfere too much with experimentation.

Healthy science needs both enthusiasts and skeptics, and everyone falls in the role that comes most natural to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;only so much time,&#8221; very true.</p>
<p>I think it is nearly impossible not to have preferences, and the best we can do is not to let our preferences interfere too much with experimentation.</p>
<p>Healthy science needs both enthusiasts and skeptics, and everyone falls in the role that comes most natural to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33781</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure?If we all were like Mr. Radins seems to be (I do not know him, and I don&#039;t like judging others that way) we&#039;d  see connections everywhere (just like we hardwired too) arbitraly (as do many people---&gt; naive theories) and still believe in things like early religious animism.

I think one should never have preferences (as far as that is possible), if he seeks the truth.And I do not have an opinion over whether we have these skills or not, I am just quite sure I don&#039;t ^^

I like to use sites like the one I posted in order to get a quick overview of what both sides have to say.Then I decide if I want to get further into it.After all, one/most people has only so much time to read and do what he wants.

Have a nice day;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure?If we all were like Mr. Radins seems to be (I do not know him, and I don&#8217;t like judging others that way) we&#8217;d  see connections everywhere (just like we hardwired too) arbitraly (as do many people&#8212;&gt; naive theories) and still believe in things like early religious animism.</p>
<p>I think one should never have preferences (as far as that is possible), if he seeks the truth.And I do not have an opinion over whether we have these skills or not, I am just quite sure I don&#8217;t ^^</p>
<p>I like to use sites like the one I posted in order to get a quick overview of what both sides have to say.Then I decide if I want to get further into it.After all, one/most people has only so much time to read and do what he wants.</p>
<p>Have a nice day;)</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Prisco</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33775</link>
		<dc:creator>Giulio Prisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mr. X for the link to the review of Radin&#039;s book. I have the impression that both sides have already decided what the experimental results must be, and interpret the data accordingly.
I did not study the results in detail, but I find Radin&#039;s enthusiasm more productive than the a-priori defeatism of professional akeptics: if we were all skeptics, we would still be in the caves because nobody would ever have ventured out of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mr. X for the link to the review of Radin&#8217;s book. I have the impression that both sides have already decided what the experimental results must be, and interpret the data accordingly.<br />
I did not study the results in detail, but I find Radin&#8217;s enthusiasm more productive than the a-priori defeatism of professional akeptics: if we were all skeptics, we would still be in the caves because nobody would ever have ventured out of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ebw</title>
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		<dc:creator>ebw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Well put,  Any way I could send you private message Bri?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Well put,  Any way I could send you private message Bri?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33239</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are arguing a strawman.Being not aware of sth is not the same as claiming it does not exist.

Concerning Dean Radin:
http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/entangledreview.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are arguing a strawman.Being not aware of sth is not the same as claiming it does not exist.</p>
<p>Concerning Dean Radin:<br />
<a href="http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/entangledreview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/entangledreview.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Prisco</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33237</link>
		<dc:creator>Giulio Prisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks ebw, I will take a look at Entangled Minds. Here is the url:
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMindex.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks ebw, I will take a look at Entangled Minds. Here is the url:<br />
<a href="http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMindex.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMindex.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ebw</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-33233</link>
		<dc:creator>ebw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are mountains of scientific evidence for telepathy. Read the book &quot;Entangled Minds&quot; by Dean Radin. The book covers literally a meta analysis of 1000&#039;s of experiments and goes into detail of many of them. Read that cover to cover and your view of there being &quot; no reproducible experiment evidence&quot;  may change...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are mountains of scientific evidence for telepathy. Read the book &#8220;Entangled Minds&#8221; by Dean Radin. The book covers literally a meta analysis of 1000&#8242;s of experiments and goes into detail of many of them. Read that cover to cover and your view of there being &#8221; no reproducible experiment evidence&#8221;  may change&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jerry t. searcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry t. searcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Each artificial neuron would communicate with the brain via electrical signals and would be able to wirelessly interface with external hardware,...&#039;&#039;
Perhaps this technology could lead to a sci-fi scenario touched on in the book &quot;2001 A Space Odyssey&quot; (and a story I read way back around 1958): Disembodied brains kept healthy by technology &amp; interfaced with avatars that were sent into dangerous environments. A circumstance fatal to a brain would only damage or destroy the avatar. Another one could replace it and the person (the brain) would be alive and well in another location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Each artificial neuron would communicate with the brain via electrical signals and would be able to wirelessly interface with external hardware,&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Perhaps this technology could lead to a sci-fi scenario touched on in the book &#8220;2001 A Space Odyssey&#8221; (and a story I read way back around 1958): Disembodied brains kept healthy by technology &amp; interfaced with avatars that were sent into dangerous environments. A circumstance fatal to a brain would only damage or destroy the avatar. Another one could replace it and the person (the brain) would be alive and well in another location.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure about what interconnectedness being inversely proportional to our own personal power? Why do you think so?

I think someone who is really good at networking is much more powerful than some lonely person.

Concerning your questions: The need question on an individual level is imho not that important.Those traits etc that lead to reproduction are those that prevail in the long run.That&#039;s why most of us have them.

Also, humans are much weaker and slowly developing than most other large creatures, which means we need to search safety in numbers.

And yeah, some brands of transhumanism come across as pretty collectivist.I dislike them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure about what interconnectedness being inversely proportional to our own personal power? Why do you think so?</p>
<p>I think someone who is really good at networking is much more powerful than some lonely person.</p>
<p>Concerning your questions: The need question on an individual level is imho not that important.Those traits etc that lead to reproduction are those that prevail in the long run.That&#8217;s why most of us have them.</p>
<p>Also, humans are much weaker and slowly developing than most other large creatures, which means we need to search safety in numbers.</p>
<p>And yeah, some brands of transhumanism come across as pretty collectivist.I dislike them.</p>
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		<title>By: PacRim Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>PacRim Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humans cooperate because of their ultimate helplessness. Who needs cooperation otherwise? Who needs to reproduce? Who needs families? Our interconnectedness is inversely proportional to our personal power. Tread with caution into transhumanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans cooperate because of their ultimate helplessness. Who needs cooperation otherwise? Who needs to reproduce? Who needs families? Our interconnectedness is inversely proportional to our personal power. Tread with caution into transhumanism.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you like 9mm or something a little more, ah, &#039;severEing&#039;?</description>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-31991</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said it, mainly referring to Bri&#039;s comment.If you want to see a &quot;proof&quot; for this claim, you can google Deepak Chopra and see the similarity on their views of unity etc.Then google the interview in which Deepak explains what he thinks science to be (questioning [non-methodically, purely intuitive] + some kind of systematic output).
I do not want to post all that stuff, which would lead to tldr (to long, didn&#039;t).This comment is already too long.

All this however does not mean I have expressed my opinion anymore than asserting these things (unity of everything, you just do not know it, but i feel it) to be in the realm of spirituality (at least as for today).

In my opinion, almost everything is a scientific problem, at least in in the long run.Even the misunderstandings between people concerning simple text messages ;)

Have a nice day :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said it, mainly referring to Bri&#8217;s comment.If you want to see a &#8220;proof&#8221; for this claim, you can google Deepak Chopra and see the similarity on their views of unity etc.Then google the interview in which Deepak explains what he thinks science to be (questioning [non-methodically, purely intuitive] + some kind of systematic output).<br />
I do not want to post all that stuff, which would lead to tldr (to long, didn&#8217;t).This comment is already too long.</p>
<p>All this however does not mean I have expressed my opinion anymore than asserting these things (unity of everything, you just do not know it, but i feel it) to be in the realm of spirituality (at least as for today).</p>
<p>In my opinion, almost everything is a scientific problem, at least in in the long run.Even the misunderstandings between people concerning simple text messages ;)</p>
<p>Have a nice day :)</p>
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		<title>By: asiwel</title>
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		<dc:creator>asiwel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like an interesting science fiction book. But the comments here are going pretty far afield, metaphorically. No doubt &quot;everything&quot; affects everything else ... in fact, this is partly the idea behind &quot;weak measurement&quot; mentioned in other articles in this issue. But &quot;cause and effect&quot; is not quite the same as &quot;particles talking.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like an interesting science fiction book. But the comments here are going pretty far afield, metaphorically. No doubt &#8220;everything&#8221; affects everything else &#8230; in fact, this is partly the idea behind &#8220;weak measurement&#8221; mentioned in other articles in this issue. But &#8220;cause and effect&#8221; is not quite the same as &#8220;particles talking.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McAnally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McAnally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I proposed the idea of nanotelepathy in a science fiction story last year called &quot;Sneeze&quot; by my pen name Michael Blade.  Its self rewarding to see that others are thinking along the same lines.  To be able to make mental phone calls across a enhanced telecommunications infrastructure seems to me to be one of the ways humanity plus is going considering the mobile communication computing trends it only seems natural that after the touch surface, augmented  reality, geolocation advances, comes mind interfaces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I proposed the idea of nanotelepathy in a science fiction story last year called &#8220;Sneeze&#8221; by my pen name Michael Blade.  Its self rewarding to see that others are thinking along the same lines.  To be able to make mental phone calls across a enhanced telecommunications infrastructure seems to me to be one of the ways humanity plus is going considering the mobile communication computing trends it only seems natural that after the touch surface, augmented  reality, geolocation advances, comes mind interfaces.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-31960</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not if it required a reasonable amount of effort. You wouldn&#039;t thus invest in fleeting information.</description>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha, yes, now, if you excuse me, I&#039;ll be lying in my comfortable dimension all infinity long taking care of my turtles. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha, yes, now, if you excuse me, I&#8217;ll be lying in my comfortable dimension all infinity long taking care of my turtles. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Prisco</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-31939</link>
		<dc:creator>Giulio Prisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said anything about religion? Whether we have latent psychic abilities is a scientific problem, and experiment must decide.

I am not aware of any reproducible experimental evidence, but as Arthur Clarke said, there are so many reports that it can&#039;t be all crap.

I look forward to seeing new experimental results and, if the result is that we have no latent psychic powers, it is good to know that we will be able to engineer them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about religion? Whether we have latent psychic abilities is a scientific problem, and experiment must decide.</p>
<p>I am not aware of any reproducible experimental evidence, but as Arthur Clarke said, there are so many reports that it can&#8217;t be all crap.</p>
<p>I look forward to seeing new experimental results and, if the result is that we have no latent psychic powers, it is good to know that we will be able to engineer them.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree -- What  I love about Ray Kurzweil and the works of transhumanism is how much sense it makes...when people then start going on about spirits, and psychic powers, that sorts of starts to trivialize everything and make it sound like fantasy stuff

It&#039;s one thing if we are ever applying technology to better our own lives and to eventually fulfill all the promises of religion...it&#039;s another thing to start injecting things for the sake of it. I understand how the Singularity is going to start to seemingly fulfill, well, as much as we can imagine apparently...that shouldn&#039;t be a void to start throwing in every sort of philosophical/fantasy idea you can think of.

I guess what it boils down to is, that &#039;religion&#039; has such a negative connotation here, and I understand that...but it&#039;s too easy to get ahead of yourself, especially if you are really passionate about the Singularity.

I can understand why it wouldn&#039;t seem like a religion...To transhumanists/singularitarians...this is merely the &#039;next step&#039; - but thing is, It&#039;s like to the people of every religion already too...it makes so much sense to them, it supposedly explains the origins of everything, what will happen in the future and how we must prepare ourselves...and the implications of the Singularity, where everyone is endowed with God-like abilities sounds, well, biblical.

Perhaps this is all semantics and nothing more, but people who believe in this stuff need to watch their behavior -- to be more modest and humble, especially since the vast majority of people never even heard of this stuff...everybody has their own ideas and everybody wants to be the winner on the other side who gets to say &quot;I told you so&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree &#8212; What  I love about Ray Kurzweil and the works of transhumanism is how much sense it makes&#8230;when people then start going on about spirits, and psychic powers, that sorts of starts to trivialize everything and make it sound like fantasy stuff</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing if we are ever applying technology to better our own lives and to eventually fulfill all the promises of religion&#8230;it&#8217;s another thing to start injecting things for the sake of it. I understand how the Singularity is going to start to seemingly fulfill, well, as much as we can imagine apparently&#8230;that shouldn&#8217;t be a void to start throwing in every sort of philosophical/fantasy idea you can think of.</p>
<p>I guess what it boils down to is, that &#8216;religion&#8217; has such a negative connotation here, and I understand that&#8230;but it&#8217;s too easy to get ahead of yourself, especially if you are really passionate about the Singularity.</p>
<p>I can understand why it wouldn&#8217;t seem like a religion&#8230;To transhumanists/singularitarians&#8230;this is merely the &#8216;next step&#8217; &#8211; but thing is, It&#8217;s like to the people of every religion already too&#8230;it makes so much sense to them, it supposedly explains the origins of everything, what will happen in the future and how we must prepare ourselves&#8230;and the implications of the Singularity, where everyone is endowed with God-like abilities sounds, well, biblical.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is all semantics and nothing more, but people who believe in this stuff need to watch their behavior &#8212; to be more modest and humble, especially since the vast majority of people never even heard of this stuff&#8230;everybody has their own ideas and everybody wants to be the winner on the other side who gets to say &#8220;I told you so&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/book-review-human-smartdust-spooks-psychics-and-transhumans/comment-page-1#comment-31921</link>
		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comments tend to have that type of influence. Even if it&#039;s a purely scientific article. Transhumanism itself can be totally devoid of religious overtones. Because it is viewed as cheating death people tend to bring in there own religious views. I may comment on the other topics in the book but I typically could write all day about some of these articles so I focus on the things that mean the most to me or that I think should be brought into the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comments tend to have that type of influence. Even if it&#8217;s a purely scientific article. Transhumanism itself can be totally devoid of religious overtones. Because it is viewed as cheating death people tend to bring in there own religious views. I may comment on the other topics in the book but I typically could write all day about some of these articles so I focus on the things that mean the most to me or that I think should be brought into the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments here explain why you can&#039;t tell anyone that you like transhumanism without being called religious.</description>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably the most important reason why spirit should be pursued is that you become part of a whole. Through tech you feel like masters of all you survey. The other way your intrinsically connected. Look at Snooki from American TV. Like so many children from so many time periods she was in run amuck. Now she has had a child and her perspective is changing. It&#039;s not just her anymore. Through self knowledge you become brother, sister,father, mother, to every conceivable thing. You see yourself s part of a whole. Randian philosophy would be more rounded. The center of an infinite circle is an infinite circle. We are one. Whether you know it or not. As you do unto the least of these you do unto your maker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the most important reason why spirit should be pursued is that you become part of a whole. Through tech you feel like masters of all you survey. The other way your intrinsically connected. Look at Snooki from American TV. Like so many children from so many time periods she was in run amuck. Now she has had a child and her perspective is changing. It&#8217;s not just her anymore. Through self knowledge you become brother, sister,father, mother, to every conceivable thing. You see yourself s part of a whole. Randian philosophy would be more rounded. The center of an infinite circle is an infinite circle. We are one. Whether you know it or not. As you do unto the least of these you do unto your maker.</p>
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		<title>By: GAUSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GAUSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put.</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to agree...isn&#039;t it all irrelevant in the end anyway when we will be capable of such &quot;superpowers&quot; through the advent of the technologies that are yet to come? 

The wish that people are actually imbued with latent potential of such sort always felt like the stuff of fantasy novels then what is actually real...and again, it&#039;s all moot because we will be able to essentially have such abilities, and more, through the tech that is yet to come; especially considering, as you say, that we will be able to vastly extend all our biological capabilities, even mysterious &#039;psychic&#039; potential that we may supposedly have -- so we&#039;ll be getting our cake and eating it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to agree&#8230;isn&#8217;t it all irrelevant in the end anyway when we will be capable of such &#8220;superpowers&#8221; through the advent of the technologies that are yet to come? </p>
<p>The wish that people are actually imbued with latent potential of such sort always felt like the stuff of fantasy novels then what is actually real&#8230;and again, it&#8217;s all moot because we will be able to essentially have such abilities, and more, through the tech that is yet to come; especially considering, as you say, that we will be able to vastly extend all our biological capabilities, even mysterious &#8216;psychic&#8217; potential that we may supposedly have &#8212; so we&#8217;ll be getting our cake and eating it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mority</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. We dont have telepathic abilities. Lots of studies were done about this topic.</description>
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		<title>By: Lord Penguin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have telepathic abilities, not because it is impossible, but because it is too complex a system to have evolved in a few billion years. If there was proof to the contrary, showing that we do have such abilities, I would agree, but numerous studies have proved it false. What we do have is a powerful brain that can find patterns, predict outcomes, and, most importantly, build computers that can extend our abilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have telepathic abilities, not because it is impossible, but because it is too complex a system to have evolved in a few billion years. If there was proof to the contrary, showing that we do have such abilities, I would agree, but numerous studies have proved it false. What we do have is a powerful brain that can find patterns, predict outcomes, and, most importantly, build computers that can extend our abilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think telepathy would be disastrous! Who of us can truly control our thoughts? Lost jobs, wrecked relationships... even with training, wouldn&#039;t the occasional thought slip out?

Oh no, give me a purely tech telepathy that I can switch off. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think telepathy would be disastrous! Who of us can truly control our thoughts? Lost jobs, wrecked relationships&#8230; even with training, wouldn&#8217;t the occasional thought slip out?</p>
<p>Oh no, give me a purely tech telepathy that I can switch off. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human psychic abilities are more than just latent. I agree with Mr bloom in his book The God Problem when he asserts that the particles talk to each other in hidden time. Every particle even empty space with all it&#039;s virtual particles does. This reality is more like the matrix than you can imagine. It&#039;s all an illusion. It&#039;s not turtles all the way down it&#039;s infinity in every comfortable dimension. Just like how suppressing certain brain centers can give you savant abilities. Severing all of them gets you to spirit. In meditation you focus the light of thought back on itself. If you do it right and really observe the observer you go through a period of black. Spirit is just on the other side of that. All is one and one is all. Little sparks of infinity from the infinite. Always have been always will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human psychic abilities are more than just latent. I agree with Mr bloom in his book The God Problem when he asserts that the particles talk to each other in hidden time. Every particle even empty space with all it&#8217;s virtual particles does. This reality is more like the matrix than you can imagine. It&#8217;s all an illusion. It&#8217;s not turtles all the way down it&#8217;s infinity in every comfortable dimension. Just like how suppressing certain brain centers can give you savant abilities. Severing all of them gets you to spirit. In meditation you focus the light of thought back on itself. If you do it right and really observe the observer you go through a period of black. Spirit is just on the other side of that. All is one and one is all. Little sparks of infinity from the infinite. Always have been always will be.</p>
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