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	<title>Comments on: DARPA&#8217;s Cheetah robot beats fastest human</title>
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		<title>By: Srivatsa</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-32915</link>
		<dc:creator>Srivatsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no artificial life, robots will more likely supplement our intelligence the problem is not robots, but it is the robot human interface. Curiosity rower just follows what we say and has basic navigation capability. New understanding chemistry and biology is required for us to be metallic creatures, additionally I do not see great advantages of being metallic creatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no artificial life, robots will more likely supplement our intelligence the problem is not robots, but it is the robot human interface. Curiosity rower just follows what we say and has basic navigation capability. New understanding chemistry and biology is required for us to be metallic creatures, additionally I do not see great advantages of being metallic creatures.</p>
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		<title>By: eldras</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31874</link>
		<dc:creator>eldras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Afraid robotics is a cul-de-sac because A.I. is here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afraid robotics is a cul-de-sac because A.I. is here.</p>
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		<title>By: anthrobotic</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31719</link>
		<dc:creator>anthrobotic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DARPA Funds it, but: 
Revolutionary Robotics at the Warehouse in Waltham. Boston Dynamics Dominates. http://goo.gl/iEp1L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DARPA Funds it, but:<br />
Revolutionary Robotics at the Warehouse in Waltham. Boston Dynamics Dominates. <a href="http://goo.gl/iEp1L" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/iEp1L</a></p>
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		<title>By: alliwant</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31568</link>
		<dc:creator>alliwant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 03:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive.  True, it is nowhere near as fluid as a big cat, but this clearly is a significant development.  Robots have as much potential as anyone can imagine, they will be great servants, and it&#039;s good we&#039;re thinking about how we will get along with them when they are more of a power in their own right.  Unimaginable how they might change the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive.  True, it is nowhere near as fluid as a big cat, but this clearly is a significant development.  Robots have as much potential as anyone can imagine, they will be great servants, and it&#8217;s good we&#8217;re thinking about how we will get along with them when they are more of a power in their own right.  Unimaginable how they might change the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31565</link>
		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 03:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make no mistake about it. It&#039;s being designed as a predator. It will chase down any combatant. Yes they&#039;ll put a fifty caliber machine gun on it. They won&#039;t be any rush to turn it into a centaur. It won&#039;t have any trouble hopping into a helecoper. It&#039;ll probably run on biofuel. One of our biggest weaknesses is the fuel convoy. Way too slow. Way too explosive. Much better to make from raw organic materials readily available in the field. Expect it to be used on civilians in our country. Police get injured and pedestrians. Those models will be less likely to shoot and have lower caliber rounds. It&#039;ll just grab hold of you and take you to the ground</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make no mistake about it. It&#8217;s being designed as a predator. It will chase down any combatant. Yes they&#8217;ll put a fifty caliber machine gun on it. They won&#8217;t be any rush to turn it into a centaur. It won&#8217;t have any trouble hopping into a helecoper. It&#8217;ll probably run on biofuel. One of our biggest weaknesses is the fuel convoy. Way too slow. Way too explosive. Much better to make from raw organic materials readily available in the field. Expect it to be used on civilians in our country. Police get injured and pedestrians. Those models will be less likely to shoot and have lower caliber rounds. It&#8217;ll just grab hold of you and take you to the ground</p>
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		<title>By: Cybernettr</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31557</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybernettr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 01:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Taint a robot, it&#039;s a high-powered skateboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Taint a robot, it&#8217;s a high-powered skateboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Marv Brilliant Ph.D</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31417</link>
		<dc:creator>Marv Brilliant Ph.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robotics is the wave of the future, a Brave New World as it were, Robots of all sorts will be commonplace within the next 10 to 20 years.  Amazing developments are under way to enhance the capabilities of artificial life. A robot is onboard the International Space Station, and an advanced robot named Curiosity has landed on Mars. We are just strathing the surface of things to come. Research is ongoing to improve these intelligent machines. Will these metal creatures one day surpass himan intelligence? I predict before the century is over,they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robotics is the wave of the future, a Brave New World as it were, Robots of all sorts will be commonplace within the next 10 to 20 years.  Amazing developments are under way to enhance the capabilities of artificial life. A robot is onboard the International Space Station, and an advanced robot named Curiosity has landed on Mars. We are just strathing the surface of things to come. Research is ongoing to improve these intelligent machines. Will these metal creatures one day surpass himan intelligence? I predict before the century is over,they will.</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31411</link>
		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...88 miles per hour!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFqJaBbsPGk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;88 miles per hour!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFqJaBbsPGk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFqJaBbsPGk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mindsight</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31320</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindsight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about certain military walkers only needing to keep pace with human soldiers most of the time. Not every dog needs to be a race hound; sometimes all you need is a St. Bernard.

Simplified a bit further (in order to bring it to lifesaving service as early as possible), the first generation of &quot;ambulance mule&quot; might just be a covered pod with legs, leaving what might be very complicated stretcher-loading work to other humans on-site. A mechanized infantry unit could have a couple of these folded up in the bay of every personnel carrier, ready to run &quot;home&quot; at a moment&#039;s notice. For squads operating away from vehicles, a larger &quot;cargo mule&quot; bot could carry one or more ambulance mules along with other provisions. [*]

I suppose one endpoint is for every soldier to wear some kind of exoskeleton or frame pack that can, if needed, sprout legs and drag its owner/passenger to safety, while administering basic first aid (on its own or via telepresent medics) and providing some degree of protection from the environment.

I expect that we will see a very wide variety in the types of quadrupedal robots in military service over the next couple of decades, with tradeoffs on factors like speed vs. payload capacity vs. on-board decisionmaking ability vs. armament vs. power efficiency vs. reconnaissance capabilities vs. size vs. stealthiness. It will be interesting to see how the various service branches adapt to manage that diverse robot ecosystem and operate effectively within / alongside it.

[* - If an ambulance mule carries its own payload of surgical robots, and if a larger cargo mule that carries ambulance mules also rides into a theater of operations on a robotic helicopter or a robotic ship, then is there even a name for that??]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about certain military walkers only needing to keep pace with human soldiers most of the time. Not every dog needs to be a race hound; sometimes all you need is a St. Bernard.</p>
<p>Simplified a bit further (in order to bring it to lifesaving service as early as possible), the first generation of &#8220;ambulance mule&#8221; might just be a covered pod with legs, leaving what might be very complicated stretcher-loading work to other humans on-site. A mechanized infantry unit could have a couple of these folded up in the bay of every personnel carrier, ready to run &#8220;home&#8221; at a moment&#8217;s notice. For squads operating away from vehicles, a larger &#8220;cargo mule&#8221; bot could carry one or more ambulance mules along with other provisions. [*]</p>
<p>I suppose one endpoint is for every soldier to wear some kind of exoskeleton or frame pack that can, if needed, sprout legs and drag its owner/passenger to safety, while administering basic first aid (on its own or via telepresent medics) and providing some degree of protection from the environment.</p>
<p>I expect that we will see a very wide variety in the types of quadrupedal robots in military service over the next couple of decades, with tradeoffs on factors like speed vs. payload capacity vs. on-board decisionmaking ability vs. armament vs. power efficiency vs. reconnaissance capabilities vs. size vs. stealthiness. It will be interesting to see how the various service branches adapt to manage that diverse robot ecosystem and operate effectively within / alongside it.</p>
<p>[* - If an ambulance mule carries its own payload of surgical robots, and if a larger cargo mule that carries ambulance mules also rides into a theater of operations on a robotic helicopter or a robotic ship, then is there even a name for that??]</p>
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		<title>By: seeker</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31304</link>
		<dc:creator>seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that soldiers in future are going to ride on hourses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that soldiers in future are going to ride on hourses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GatorALLin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31287</link>
		<dc:creator>GatorALLin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....Maybe you just mount a chain gun on this thing and video control it from one of the same places in vegas where the kids pilot the Predator MQ-9 Reapers and then you never have to use this to pick up your wounded.  I think all wars in the future are done without humans (at least our side). As a country we have to cash in on the fact the average teenager has 10,000 hours playing video games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Maybe you just mount a chain gun on this thing and video control it from one of the same places in vegas where the kids pilot the Predator MQ-9 Reapers and then you never have to use this to pick up your wounded.  I think all wars in the future are done without humans (at least our side). As a country we have to cash in on the fact the average teenager has 10,000 hours playing video games.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31265</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s impressive enough to give me nightmares about being chased down and torn apart by robo-cheetahs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s impressive enough to give me nightmares about being chased down and torn apart by robo-cheetahs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31252</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just took another look at the video.  A full-sized, engine-powered version wouldn&#039;t need to run as fast as a horse to be useful.  As long as it can run as fast as the humans it serves with, there will be a place for it as a pack animal and a battle-field ambulance that can run out under fire and pick up the wounded and carry them back to a field hospital.  It just needs a torso with arms to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just took another look at the video.  A full-sized, engine-powered version wouldn&#8217;t need to run as fast as a horse to be useful.  As long as it can run as fast as the humans it serves with, there will be a place for it as a pack animal and a battle-field ambulance that can run out under fire and pick up the wounded and carry them back to a field hospital.  It just needs a torso with arms to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31250</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The something greater in the future will be when they bolt on a torso with arms so it can pick up the wounded on the battlefield.  Then they&#039;ll call it a centaur.  But using hydraulics on-board will increase the size and use up batteries in a hurry.  To go free-range this thing will need a snowmobile engine powering a generator and the hydraulic pump.  It will end up the size of the Budweiser horse, the Clydesdale.  It will be a bitch to get on and off a helicopter.  It will have to fold its torso back along its body and crawl in the back of a Chinook on its knees.  But these are all engineering problems that will be solved.  All it takes is time and money...but money, that&#039;s the big part these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The something greater in the future will be when they bolt on a torso with arms so it can pick up the wounded on the battlefield.  Then they&#8217;ll call it a centaur.  But using hydraulics on-board will increase the size and use up batteries in a hurry.  To go free-range this thing will need a snowmobile engine powering a generator and the hydraulic pump.  It will end up the size of the Budweiser horse, the Clydesdale.  It will be a bitch to get on and off a helicopter.  It will have to fold its torso back along its body and crawl in the back of a Chinook on its knees.  But these are all engineering problems that will be solved.  All it takes is time and money&#8230;but money, that&#8217;s the big part these days.</p>
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		<title>By: GatorALLin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31234</link>
		<dc:creator>GatorALLin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...check out this guy riding a robot that hits 28mph in 1.9 seconds. You can buy one for 4k if you need to race a vette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COL0xpZw6Sc&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;check out this guy riding a robot that hits 28mph in 1.9 seconds. You can buy one for 4k if you need to race a vette.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COL0xpZw6Sc&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COL0xpZw6Sc&#038;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: GatorALLin</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31232</link>
		<dc:creator>GatorALLin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that being bolted to an arm that hangs you over the treadmill is not close to the same thing as running on the flat ground. Of course this is just testing efforts and proof of concept before taking this thing outside. I have to wonder about its balance at 28mph and all that you have to do to keep that going perfectly......    but still a cool achievement.  Calling this thing a Cheetah (that can do 70mph+) is also misleading. Maybe for now they just call it &quot;bolt&quot; as that is as fast as he went and because it is bolted to an arm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that being bolted to an arm that hangs you over the treadmill is not close to the same thing as running on the flat ground. Of course this is just testing efforts and proof of concept before taking this thing outside. I have to wonder about its balance at 28mph and all that you have to do to keep that going perfectly&#8230;&#8230;    but still a cool achievement.  Calling this thing a Cheetah (that can do 70mph+) is also misleading. Maybe for now they just call it &#8220;bolt&#8221; as that is as fast as he went and because it is bolted to an arm.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31221</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &#039;robot&#039; looks like it&#039;t getting all it&#039;s power from a spinning driveshaft on the far side. What are they going to do for power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8216;robot&#8217; looks like it&#8217;t getting all it&#8217;s power from a spinning driveshaft on the far side. What are they going to do for power?</p>
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		<title>By: omran al-kandari</title>
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		<dc:creator>omran al-kandari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great ! hope it overcome a real cheetah in the future ^^ and guys its still a prototype for something greater in the future .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great ! hope it overcome a real cheetah in the future ^^ and guys its still a prototype for something greater in the future .</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/darpas-cheetah-robot-beats-fastest-human/comment-page-1#comment-31209</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll call you when robots can play basketball.  When they can run down the court passing the ball and then throwing it to the unit that&#039;s clear, and that one dunks the ball...then we will call you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll call you when robots can play basketball.  When they can run down the court passing the ball and then throwing it to the unit that&#8217;s clear, and that one dunks the ball&#8230;then we will call you.</p>
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		<title>By: gaoptimize</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaoptimize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not impressed until the umbilical cable is removed. And even then, there are plenty of machines that have a higher velocity than man.  Call me when a robot can outperform an Olympic gymnast in all-around.</description>
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