Comments on: Disruptions: dining with robots in Silicon Valley http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley Accelerating Intelligence Sat, 25 May 2013 08:30:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1#comment-28237 Bri Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:35:47 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=158787#comment-28237 I'm not a fan of Obama care. I agree that everything would continue to balloon in price, I just don't have faith in the republicans. It will be interesting to see how things degenerate. I think regenerative medicine will make health care more affordable. One of the biggest drivers of future healthcare costs is diabetes. Ray spoke of research in relation to the genes that store fat. Experiments in mice have shown that altering it's function would eliminate heart disease, obesity, type one and two diabetes. You would think that would be first priority. That one treatment would save billions of dollars. I don't know the status of that treatment, but I'll bet we won't see it any time too soon. Sorry to have sounded partisan, but I think the party symbols say it all. The dems are a bunch of jack( you can't say that!) and the Republicans squash anything in the room with them. I’m not a fan of Obama care. I agree that everything would continue to balloon in price, I just don’t have faith in the republicans. It will be interesting to see how things degenerate. I think regenerative medicine will make health care more affordable. One of the biggest drivers of future healthcare costs is diabetes. Ray spoke of research in relation to the genes that store fat. Experiments in mice have shown that altering it’s function would eliminate heart disease, obesity, type one and two diabetes. You would think that would be first priority. That one treatment would save billions of dollars. I don’t know the status of that treatment, but I’ll bet we won’t see it any time too soon. Sorry to have sounded partisan, but I think the party symbols say it all. The dems are a bunch of jack( you can’t say that!) and the Republicans squash anything in the room with them.

]]> By: Dan Robinson http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1#comment-28232 Dan Robinson Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:49:17 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=158787#comment-28232 At first I thoght Gordon meant would the robots be able to live at home and get Medicare. I tend to wonder if the android form will ever be the most useful, at least on floor or level ground At first I thoght Gordon meant would the robots be able to live at home and get Medicare. I tend to wonder if the android form will ever be the most useful, at least on floor or level ground

]]> By: melajara http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1#comment-28222 melajara Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:45:39 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=158787#comment-28222 I applaud to the M3 DARPA program to look for robots up to 2000x more energy efficient than current ones, see http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/DARPA-Officials-Aiming-for-More-Efficient-Robots-301700/ There is currently huge hype about a forthcoming invasion of robots for everyday life applications. I see them coming too, but not with the current crop of robotic bodies all too brittle, whatever would be the "brain" behind. Current robotic "bodies" are just glorified toys at best, and DARPA itself acknowledges that your typical $100k+ robot in the field is "autonomous" for 10 to 20 minutes! Think of it, hardly the time to deploy them, and it's already time to go home or you lose that flashy toy in the field! As we have adipose tissues evenly distributed to serve as repositories of spare energy, at the very least, we should have robots with a distributed battery (or set of), stuffed around the robot body parts. We have also to promote a much more scaled down componentization, it's no time (yet) to strive in robotics at mimicking life down the cellular level, but we should have mini bricks like Lego parts easily and massively manufacturable with normalized i/o to assemble them in equivalent of robotic "body parts". Besides, why the research on artificial muscles is still irrelevant in producing real actuators? We have now interesting materials, with better leverage than the actin/myosin couple responsible of muscle contraction, but this is not demonstrated in current actuators. Time for a serious collective effort here! I applaud to the M3 DARPA program to look for robots up to 2000x more energy efficient than current ones, see http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/DARPA-Officials-Aiming-for-More-Efficient-Robots-301700/

There is currently huge hype about a forthcoming invasion of robots for everyday life applications.

I see them coming too, but not with the current crop of robotic bodies all too brittle, whatever would be the “brain” behind.

Current robotic “bodies” are just glorified toys at best, and DARPA itself acknowledges that your typical $100k+ robot in the field is “autonomous” for 10 to 20 minutes!

Think of it, hardly the time to deploy them, and it’s already time to go home or you lose that flashy toy in the field!

As we have adipose tissues evenly distributed to serve as repositories of spare energy, at the very least, we should have robots with a distributed battery (or set of), stuffed around the robot body parts. We have also to promote a much more scaled down componentization, it’s no time (yet) to strive in robotics at mimicking life down the cellular level, but we should have mini bricks like Lego parts easily and massively manufacturable with normalized i/o to assemble them in equivalent of robotic “body parts”.

Besides, why the research on artificial muscles is still irrelevant in producing real actuators? We have now interesting materials, with better leverage than the actin/myosin couple responsible of muscle contraction, but this is not demonstrated in current actuators.

Time for a serious collective effort here!

]]> By: Spikosauropod http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1#comment-28220 Spikosauropod Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:27:15 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=158787#comment-28220 If the Republicans can save medicare from Obamacare, Medicare will probably provide these. They will be too expensive under Obamacare and the committee (also known as the death panel) will not be willing to fund them. If the Republicans can save medicare from Obamacare, Medicare will probably provide these. They will be too expensive under Obamacare and the committee (also known as the death panel) will not be willing to fund them.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1#comment-28212 Bri Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:29:49 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=158787#comment-28212 Are you kidding? They are literally practicing slash and burn agriculture. I know you MrG, from other posts. I loved your reference to Egypt and stone axes. Means more to me than you realize, but republicans giving something away? Sounds like your practicing lucid dreaming. Are you kidding? They are literally practicing slash and burn agriculture. I know you MrG, from other posts. I loved your reference to Egypt and stone axes. Means more to me than you realize, but republicans giving something away? Sounds like your practicing lucid dreaming.

]]> By: Gorden Russell http://www.kurzweilai.net/disruptions-dining-with-robots-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1#comment-28210 Gorden Russell Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:30:29 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=158787#comment-28210 The big question is this: Would the Republicans let Medicare supply these robots so that the physically disabled would be able to live at home? In the long run it would save money, but the Tea Party wants cuts right now. The big question is this: Would the Republicans let Medicare supply these robots so that the physically disabled would be able to live at home? In the long run it would save money, but the Tea Party wants cuts right now.

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