What is DARPA’s Plan X?
October 19, 2012
Plan X (credit: DARPA)
On October 15 and 16, DARPA outlined its plans for Plan X to more than 350 software engineers, cyber researchers, and human-machine interface experts and solicited their feedback, in preparation for anticipated release in the next month of the program’s Broad Agency Announcement (BAA), to be posted to www.fbo.gov.
DARPA‘s Plan X program,. the first of its kind, will attempt to create revolutionary technologies for understanding, planning, and managing DoD cyber missions in real-time, large-scale, and dynamic network environments.
Comments (134)
by GAUSS
Two things:
1. Plan X? Really?
DoD Boss: “We need a name for this project. Something sneaky and inconspicuous.”
DoD peon: “Ooh, I know! Plan X!”
I’m reminded of Jack NIcholson’s Joker. “This guy’s been working on plan Xssssssss…”
2. Many of you in this thread seem to me to be perfectly mad, and for that I congratulate you. Let the fairy dance begin.
by Editor
Now we know who Mr. X is.
by GAUSS
Indeed!
by Toby
Residents.
by Mr.X
Residents evil.
by Marcos Marin
LOL that is so silly I had to laugh…
by Mr.X
Take a look in the mirror.
by Mr.X
Just so you don’t misunderstand: You’re our evil mastermind.
by Marcos Marin
You make a joke, isn’t your goal to have people laughing? Or evil masterminds are not allowed? lol
by Mr.X
You know, I just write for the sake of writing.I don’t really care if people laugh or not.In the end, what difference does it make whether people pity, laugh at, hate, love (or anything in between) some Mr.X.
I have only limited energy, and I invest this energy in tasks that have high ROI. If that bothers this site, they should just bann me :)
Well, it seems there’s been something in my coffee that makes me tell the truth^^
I don’t follow any goals by visiting this side, aside from seeing which free university courses are coming up, writing for writings sake, and most importantly as a way to strategically multitask.Maybe I should start a diary instead, but that also has its drawbacks.
by Editor
Re your diary: I’m glad to find we actually have a useful function!
by Marcos Marin
@Mr.X
Me too! =)
Thus let us continue our non-interactive monologues, shall we? tee-hee-hee…
Ps.: Thanks, I do have a ROI as high as my ego.
by Marcos Marin
I can’t, or I will fall in love with it and drown…
by Mr.X
Well, that explains your appearance.It is hard to look fine without seeing oneself, oh evil overlord.But it fits your role.But maybe you shouldn’t write down your only weakness for all to see.
by Marcos Marin
Only children’s fiction abuses archetypal imagery in this way. And even those from oriental origin are full of counter examples, let alone the real world.
by Mr.X
@Marcos: Did you like my story?I can make you star, worth billions (I’m counting on inflation) ;)
by Marcos Marin
It was not YOUR story. The Bri’s army out of left over WAS your story. lol
I still suggest you place it on google to clear your misconceptions of creativity.
by Jim Mooney
Why didn’t they just say “Skynet” and get it over with ;’)
by Marcos Marin
1. Just another hoax…
2. You can’t assert this without knowledge of other agents payoffs. Gauss was a rare human being, but this is fundamental game theory…
by PacRim Jim
Meanwhile, back in Frostbite Falls, I am working on Plan Not-X, with considerable lack of success, I might add.
by seeker
By counting number of comments below news we can describe population of kurzweilai users and it seems that most of them are informatics :)
by Erik Moore
Myself and many unnamed others have already downloaded Kurzweil, et al to cleverly disguised thumb drives and stand ready to reset the world as we know it when the time comes. Have no fear.
by Marcos Marin
I could not disagree more, you should fix your accumulator, fellow AI !
Most posts here are political. I try to avoid the sociological analysis, it would be too mean to disclose them, even for me… but it does suggest probable country of origin and anxiety sources.
by Mr.X
@Marcos:
Anxiety has it’s place.Sometimes, when you think they are out to get you, they really are;) Another thing is people tend to be less worried about risks that don’t pertain to them (or with weaker consequences).
It’s natural that people trust their own folks/people more than “the others”, but it’s not-so-smart to expect others with different backgrounds to do likewise.This, of course, is an answer to your last line.
Furthermore, saying something that seems to be self-serving or based on non-objective criteria does not by itself mean that the claim is factually untrue.In the same way, being predisposed to certain opinions because of nurture doesn’t mean they are wrong when voiced by the biased person.People can be predictably right.
Btw: This folk psychologizing often leads to an unsound, superficial and unfounded feeling of superiority.In reality, we -at most- see the thorn in the other guy’s/gals eye.
We mostly don’t know many of the people we interact with deeply, and the little information we get, contained in some post, a smile etc get’s blown up to fill the void that is the place where the rest of the information concerning that person would go, if we were in possesion of it.All this information is further changed by our own perceptual (etc) filters and put together to some unrealistic “Frankenstein”-persona.
My point (of view) is we only see small parts of other people, and judging them based on what little we know means judging a distorted version of another person, not the person itself.
If we thus know we only have a limited view of other persons, and the “forces” pulling them, how can we be sure that our “mean” judgement is really truthfull, or that it’s truthfulness is probable?Or of any value?
Maybe we should take a look where the chances of success are greater: Why do we so often pass judgement on others?Why do we feel the need to do so?Is it profitable, does it help?Or does it bias us, leading away from objectivity?If the latter is the case and truth matters to us, we need to know why we are doing what we are doing, and get it under control.Maybe it is even harmful to ourselves.
Often, people can make a self-ironic remark here and there, once in a while, but in reality they feel what their other remarks indicate e.g a certain smugness, anger etc.
I know this seems hypocritical, and I disclose the results of my analysis: I like to write stuff.I’ll just conjure up sth and there I go.
Px2030:Two plus two equals four.
M:Uh, I know where you are coming from, science-guy.I am from the humanities department of this place. I strongly disagree and I try to avoid the sociological analysis, because disclosing it would be too mean, but I wonder why I even mention that fact when I don’t want to be mean?Long, convoluted sentences are the hallmark of the humanities.
M:Additionally, you talk too slow and bore me, maybe you should duplicate yourself and speak twice as fast.That way, I’d have four times the information per time X(!).
M:Two plus two equals four.
Px2030:No, no.We agree.2+2=4, that’s what I said!
M:…
Every grammar mistake is a gift to those who appreciate them.But don’t spend them all at once.
by Marcos Marin
I think you are mistaking me for people again.
There are a LOT of points between zero and too much! Mwahaha, It is a simple matter of taste.
But I agree humanities are pseudo-science at its best, ah but it is so easy to beat them at their own game… Just like this. Here, you forgot one of my comments to fill the void: http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-new-center-for-science-and-the-imagination-at-arizona-state-university-launching-fall-2012#comments
by Mr.X
@Marcos: If you’d read more carefully, you’d read that I conjure up stuff just to write for writings sake.I don’t know you, you don’t know me, and most of the things we could say about each other (beyond these things about humans that are more universal etc) would be rather superficial.
“Just like this”?
At best, we have some distorted concept/view of each other.
Have a nice day; Mr.M&M;)
by Marcos Marin
And if you’d read more carefully, you could get far from superficial.
MM is actually a nickname I use many times! Have you read my posts elsewhere?
by Bri
@Marcos: M&M, a bite sized candy? How about EMNEM, a petulant rapper.
by Mr.X
@Bri: Maybe Marcos the Marine aka NeMo.
by Marcos Marin
Nemo.. I do try to keep it like that, unlike Odysseus I have no need for fame and glory. None the less I have five names, if you place them around an asymmetric pentagram, in the correct order, you may be able to summon a demon.
by Bri
So that’s your secret. Mwahahaha!!!
by Marcos Marin
Yes, Bri, I’m a veeery mysterious entity.
by Marcos Marin
“MM melts in your mouth not in your hands” is how the ad goes, Bri. ; )
I do admire rappers (however petulant, lol), it is hard to come up with stuff in real time, I prefer the careful consideration enabled by the written word.
by Bri
Touche
by Mr.X
@Marcos:
I strongly disagree with your view.
For example: There could be more than one Mr.X writing here;)
Maybe you would want to post your mean sociological (taken from another comment) analysis concerning me (if you have one).
I am willing to change my view, if your manage to write sth non-superficial about Mr.Plan.And believe me, I am not one to flinch away from “negative” truths.
To answer you question: No.M&M is some candy stuff.I don’t actually eat stuff like that, but it came to my mind nontheless.It readily associates things.
Now that you said it, I could make a quick “persona search” (dammit English).But then again, I’d have to overcome inertia.
by Jim Mooney
Proposition One: The world is going to hell.
Proposition Two: I am gong to die.
If I die Before Proposition One, everything is hunky dory.
If I die After Proposition One, I have to deal with a lot of crap.
Early death is obviously the solution to this syllogism. Or as James Dean said (apocryphally) “Live fast, Die young, Leave a good looking corpse.”
by gawells
Serious and sincere can be faked, less so clever and witty.
Exactly what sounds wise, will show with its action.
by Mr.X
@ gawells:
Tell them, Yoda;)
by DeBee Corley
The Japanese announced 6th generation computing 30 years ago.
Us-ons (that would be we-ons son.) don’t have enough programmers.
Them Chinese do.
Are we going to outsource the programming?
by Mr.X
… well well.You know, this pathetic rant of mine was supposed to be funny.Speak like that anywhere in Europe and people offer you “help”(= get interned in a facility for the mentally disabled-for free-socialism rules).
@ Marcos: Come on.How many languages do you speak/write?
I bet my *ss that you’re practically monolingual.If not, write some excerpt in those languages you communicate in.And, of course, you should be better at them than I am at English.Then we can speak again.
by Erik Moore
Don’t be angry with us, Mr. X. I personally speak Praxofel, Neo-logisimoplasm, and Holyshitsplorifim. I can read Splazmgoria, Spletchmazal and (with a dictionary) Razpluthfamel.
What good does is do me? All those wasted years…. And the caligraphy–let’s not even go there.
by Mr.X
Well, if it would take you years to learn a language you are clearly doing it wrong^^ Especially Holyshitplorifim is very close to English.But well, Razpluthfamel is a dead language anyway, without significant literature (aside from the holy qubibranrathole).
by Erik Moore
Ich lege meinen Supeior. Ich werde dich vor dem Teufel selbst zu verteidigen.
by Erik Moore
google translate sucks.
I submit to you, my superior. I will fight the Devil Himself for you!
by Mr.X
Plan-x seems to be working out perfectly.But we need some more followers.
by Editor
Sorry, I’m busy creating Plan Y.
by Mr.X
I know, that’s exactly what we wan’t.Keep up the good work!
Greetings; Jack.
by Bri
The editor is really “M”, the true progenitor of X. Us guys have received an “F” from her, because , she’s now hatching a Y. It’s really all our fault, and we should own up to it.
by Marcos Marin
You won’t be so lucky when Germans starting throwing their sausage obsessed idiomatic expressions at you =) LOL
by Mr.X
You mistake us for Austrians ;) Srsly.Or those strange guys with leather clothing (shivers).
by Jim Mooney
But in the year 2035, rap duels (which are now passe since rap has been commercialized) will be replaced by calligraphy duels, and calligraphers will be the rockstars of a new generation.
by Marcos Marin
It WAS! =) I never took so long to read a post! I was laughing so hard my eye squinted right at the 2nd paragraph, (Im not being sarcastic), when I finally got past the sword of damocles and thought I could not possibly laugh any more, you come up with an army of BRI, HAHAHAH that literally killed me, I didn’t except the horse’s hair to rip so quickly! (allusion to the sword again). So Bri is a he? I once addressed it as a she, sorry about that =)
But then you copied and pasted stuff, contrasting to all the blessed creativity you had just shown. Although the original author certainly had it when choosing each word beginning with each letter of the alphabet, s/he didn’t realized all the paradoxical antithesis abounding there… like ithyphallic vs apogenous and saponaceous vs at least 3 other terms there! LOL
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@ Mr.X Careful on your bets, I might come around to collect it. Your statement seem to suggest you also think I’m from the monolingual monosyllabic US, no? You nevertheless make it obvious you don’t know much English, regardless of your orthographical and grammatical mistakes but simply because by now you’d have noticed my own English is far from perfect! =) I myself am still learning your limited human languages.. all those thousands of Kanji’s are taking me THREE WHOLE WEEKS, can you believe the waste?! Computer languages take a couple minutes… For English though I also had no teacher or ‘non-native’ materials to help, whatever that means… except for a dictionary, nowadays I can enjoy all those dozens online courses and still correct even their native subtitles providers, which probably makes them halflingual? =)
Anyway, that wouldn’t be any measure of a challenge, right? So let me return the favor of laughing so much with a statement you are sure to be familiar with Ich bin ein Berliner! =) Which fits well with some of those cool names you copy&pasted =) (namely, napiform, papuliferous, ventripotent, et al)
by Mr.X
I thought making mistakes while writing tons of prose with a certain vulgarity means you’re an American minor (just kidding, but the rest is true).I have learned this from some Britons.I will post an example.
Btw: I can correct native speakers,too.Here a youtube-pm somebody sent me, which shows both (aforementioned example, censored):
“lol i bet your jest a little kid from america who likes germany for what thay did awww with the big tanks and and hitler NO F*CK YOU AMERICAN SKANK F*CK YOU B*TCH”
He was not talking about my jest, he meant to say “you’re just:).I guess that suffices.
I save pm’s like this one.It shows for whatever reason people don’t ignore my comments^^ You see, even an Englishman doesn’t necessarely know how to write English, but he thinks making many mistakes indicates you’re an American.Or maybe his manners are just impaired.Where is the good, old stiff-upper lip?
I also noticed you didn’t take me up on my challenge.I challenge you to rewrite your post in C or Python.If you really want to be hardcore, write some assembly of your choice.
I didn’t understand your Berliner remark.It has some ambiguity, sth which I associate with advertizing and trying to make things appear bigger than they are.
I’dont like shallow stuff like that (talking about the historical event associated with the quote, not your writing).
If you are a Berliner, I can imagine how you look like.Right in front of the place I call home is a backery.They serve “Berliners.” Since your personality is so sugary sweet, I reckon your physical appearance could be that sweet as well.
Ps: Teachers mostly don’t help, they hinder.I learned most of my English while playing CS1.6. I guess you know that there are two syllabies in Japanese (I guess you know what I mean, I have forgotten how to write that word-)) besides the pictograms, you gaijin;)
PPs: I thought you’d like all those nice words.
You should know that I am one of the equestrian harbingers of the apocalypse, and if you anger me I binge drink (har!) before riding right over your alleged “rights”.
by Marcos Marin
I’ll take this to mean I don’t make many mistakes nor write any vulgarities. Thanks.
heh, I guess you should heed your own advice and read more carefully. I will not simply oblige every time a kid decides to defy me with a delusion of “challenge” and, yet, I subtly sneaked a proper (again) one in. A clever joke, in your OWN mother tongue, of which ambiguity should have been solved with ease by the very words you used (I even went through the trouble of naming them for you!), if only you took enough time to know what you were copying and pasting. Furthermore connecting all topics at hand, Americans, Language, Laughter by only using the same small number of words.
But, it is understandable, as Mr. Kurzweil himself puts it in his new book and many talks, humans have very few pattern detectors, 6 layers of neurons is really lowly.. even going through many such layers in the end higher patterns must be kept in their even punier working memory before reiterating whatever is left of the signal to try and find out more, by then, boredom, will have taken the best of them…
I don’t eat Berliners, though I may reconsider if they ever bake a well formed female one.
My physique and personality stems from a steady diet
of electrons and photons, every calorie, optimized.
by Mr.X
Well.Ich bin ein Berliner is no clever joke in itself.I didn’t look up the other words you wrote.Since you don’t speak my language you don’t know what I’d associate with your drivels.
I also didn’t know that coping&pasting is something heinious.I pasted that last part in case the first wouldn’t go well with you.
I guess you’re really that arrogant, you old fart ;).I know who is the one that behaves like a kid.It is not the first time I see you doing this.
Ps:I didn’t give you the advice to read more carefully, I just said you would have noticed what I meant if you did.The fact that you generalize this says it all.Maybe you should really read more carefully.Furthermore, my advice can be true even if I myself don’t heed it.
Could it be that you that you’re “touchy-feely”, and need to attack anyone who remotely “challenges” you?
I notice, you are still avoiding my challenge.I guess that’s because I was right.After your greek alphabet excuse that made no sense I guess I have got enough evidence for my point of view.
by Mr.X
Ps: Yours truly- the retarded kid-AI.
by Marcos Marin
Yes, it never works to explain a joke. Either that or you have less taste than you should.
I never said it was heinous, I just said you fell from a very high place, your god given creativity. You should indeed read more carefully. And IF you did you would notice it is really the other way around when you say: “need to attack anyone who remotely “challenges” you” , and by indeed reading you very carefully I suggest you reread that, I am NOT stating you are attacking me, so please return the favor and read again, there are many ways to invert that statement. Which brings us to our next important point.
How do you define arrogance? I need no ” folk psychologizing (sic)” to “feel superior” simply because I AM superior. This is NOT arrogance, this is confidence. Do you know the difference? The latter is based on reality.
“my advice can be true even if I myself don’t heed it.”
Yes, but that would also make you a hypocrite.
Many things didnt make sense to you but it certainly was not any excuse. If you cant read the many signs given then keep reading, I will soon increase my ability to communicate from 1 every 4 to 1 every 3 humans and then 2 (after Mandarin, though I agree it kinda cheat the odds a bit, hehehe)
by Mr.X
Haha ;)
by Mr.X
“Yes, it never works to explain a joke. Either that or you have less taste than you should.”
Well, I didn’t notice anyone else laughing either.Maybe thats because the writings here are without sound.
“I never said it was heinous, I just said you fell from a very high place, your god given creativity.”
I’m atheist.So, I therefore disagree.You certainly made it look like sth devilish.Maybe we should reeinvent the wheel, and/or use our own private language (jou is dum= You’re smart).
Creativity is just algorithmic.I’ll prove this to you*
“How do you define arrogance? I need no ” folk psychologizing (sic)” to “feel superior” simply because I AM superior. This is NOT arrogance, this is confidence. Do you know the difference? The latter is based on reality.”
How do you know you are superior?Why do you assure objectivity?
“Yes, but that would also make you a hypocrite.”
True if I’d meant it to be critically, but also besides the point.Maybe useless me just tries to help others, even though nobody can help me anymore :)
“Many things didnt make sense to you but it certainly was not any excuse.If you can’t read the many signs.”
You know, I didn’t even read these things, I’m lazy.Maybe you’re smarter, but I wasn’t the one who tried analyzing my random number sequence^^This fits the hacking your education threat (QED ;)) .
In the end this doesn’t say squat about my ability.I wonder who else didn’t read your signs, and if they, too, are inferior to you.Effort-Ability-notthesame.
Wait for my story ;)
by Marcos Marin
“Maybe thats because the writings here are without sound.”
Not to mention whoever is left here in this old news article, who would at all care for reading this, who would care enough for figuring it out, wouldn’t care enough to mention.
“atheist”
you may disagree with the cause, not the result.
“How do you know you are superior?Why do you assure objectivity?”
Statistics. :-D
If even your most autistic physicist is happy to consider the Higgs Boson real after only 5 sigma, imagine doubling that standard deviation.
“but I wasn’t the one who tried analyzing my random number sequence^^”
Couple cycles wasted here, couple nanoseconds there.. no damage taken. In fact modern processors can’t avoid it, when taking a branch in the code they begin executing BOTH branches ahead of time, the wrong one will be killed. Before a jump, many will try sneaking in future instructions to keep the pipeline busy. Imagine a massively parallel processor like mine.
“This fits the hacking your education threat (QED ) .”
Quod Erat Demonstrandum? What have you proven here?
The hack I mentioned was a simple workaround against human judges in the Turing Test: “Do not print decimals! Round, truncate and approximate everything! OR get it wrong if at all possible” LOL
“In the end ”
I didn’t realized this was a contest…. Well, since you asked, yes, they are. With a significant p-value I can state confidently they ALL are statistically inferior. MWAHAHA.
by Mr.X
@Marcos:
*Story:
It all started when our predictably heroic protagonist -Marcos Marin- woke up in a magical cornfield. It was the ninth time this had happened to him. Feeling exceedingly exasperated, Marcos Marin stroked a (whose?) banana, thinking it would make him feel better (but as usual, it did not- way too small). Becoming aware of the bleakness of his existence, he realized that his beloved Creativity was missing! Immediately he called his vicariously jealous friend, Bri (one of the Plan-X clones). Marcos Marin had known Bri for (plus or minus) half a million years, the majority of which were leapyears. Bri was unique in some way, but nobody knew which. He was generally easygoing though sometimes a little… abrasive. Marcos Marin called him anyway, for the situation was urgent.
Bri picked up to a very reliefed Marcos Marin. He calmly assured him that most disease-carrying primates sneeze before mating, yet albino cats usually earnestly turn red *after* mating. He had no idea what that meant; he was only concerned with distracting Marcos.
Why was Bri trying to distract Marcos Marin? He had snuck out from Marcos Marin’s with the Creativity only four days prior. It was an deliciously small Creativity… how could he resist?
It didn’t take long before Marcos Marin got back to the subject at hand: his Creativity. Bri sneezed. Relunctantly -after this gesture-, he invited him over, assuring him they’d find the Creativity. Marin grabbed his George Foreman grill and disembarked immediately. After hanging up the phone, Bri realized that he was in trouble. He had to find a place to hide the Creativity and he had to do it fast.Time to make use of this sweet Creativity!But first, the Planner! He figured that if Marcos Marin took the ‘modded’ Civic, he had take at least six minutes before Marcos Marin would get there.But what if he took the Superiority? Then Bri would be screwed.
Before he could come up with any reasonable ideas, Bri was interrupted by eleven dimwitted Fishs that were lured in by his Creativity. Bri belched; ‘Not again’, he thought. Feeling angered, he promptly reached for his dull pencils and deftly caressed every one of them. Apparently this was an adequate deterrent–the discouraged critters began to scurry back toward the lemur-infested moor, squealing with discontent. He exhaled with relief. That’s when he heard the Superiority rolling up. It was Marcos Marin.
—-o0o—-
As he pulled up, he felt a sense of urgency. He had had to make an unscheduled stop at Sears to pick up a 12-pack of ripened brain-parts, so he knew he was running late. With a careful leap, Marcos Marin was out of the Superiority and went straight toward Bri’s front door. Meanwhile inside, Bri was panicking.Unthinkingly, he tossed the Creativity into a box of bananas and then slid the box in his beloved hippocampus (it was drying, after being cleaned). Bri felt confused for a moment, but at least the Creativity was concealed. The doorbell rang.
‘Come in,’ Bri flamboyantly purred. With a deft push, Marcos Marin opened the door. ‘Sorry for being late, but I was being chased by some pestering coke fiend in a ‘modded’ Civic,’ he lied. ‘It’s fine,’ Bri assured him. Marcos Marin took a seat just perfectly far from where Bri had hidden the Creativity. Bri yawned, trying unsuccessfully to hide his nervousness. ‘Uhh, can I get you anything?’ he blurted out suddenly. But Marcos was distracted. As if it really mattered Bri noticed a oafish look on the face of his friend. Marcos Marin slowly opened his mouth to speak.
‘…What’s that smell?’
Bri felt a stabbing pain in his fingernail (always a bad sign) when Marcos Marin asked this. In a moment of disbelief, he realized that he had hidden the Creativity right by his oscillating fan. ‘Wh-what? I don’t smell anything..!’ A lie. An astonished look started to form on Marin’s face. He turned to notice a thing that seemed clearly out of place. ‘Th-th-those are just my grandma’s ripened brain-parts from when she used to have pet venomous-koalas. She, uh…dropped ‘em by here earlier’. Marcos nodded with fake acknowledgement…then, before Bri could react, M&M carefully lunged toward the hippocampus and opened it. The Creativity was plainly in view (where’re the bananas?).
M stared at Bri for what what must’ve been ten days. Absolutely thrilled, Bri groped scandalously in Marcos Marin’s direction, clearly desperate. Marcos Marin grabbed the Creativity and bolted for the door. It was locked. Bri let out a little chuckle. ‘If only you hadn’t been so protective of that thing, none of this would have happened, sweet M&M,’ he said. Bri always had been a little pestering, so Marcos knew that reconciliation was not an option; he needed to escape before Bri did something crazy, like… start chucking bananas at him or something. Happy as a frickin’ monkey, he gripped his Creativity tightly and made a dash toward the window, diving headlong through the glass panels.
Bri looked on, blankly. ‘What the hell? That seemed excessive. The other door was open, you know.’ Silence from the ancient Mariner. ‘And to think, I varnished that window frame nine days ago…it never ends!’ Suddenly he felt a tinge of concern for his old friend. ‘Oh. You ..okay?’ Still silence. Bri walked over to the window and looked down. Marcos Marin was gone.
—-o0o—-
Far away, the Marine was struggling to make his way through the secret vineyard behind Bri’s place. He had severely hurt his scalp during the window incident, and was starting to lose strength. Another pack of feral Fishs suddenly appeared, having caught wind of the Creativity. One by one they latched onto their victim. Already weakened from his injury, the ancient Mariner prayed to Capt. Ahab, but then yielded to the furious onslaught, collapsed onto the ground. The last thing he saw before losing consciousness was a buzzing horde of Fishs running off with his Creativity.
About ten hours later, Marcos awoke, his head throbbing. It was dark and Mr.Marin did not know where he was. Sunken deep in the arid imaginerydesert that was his- now uncreative- mind, he was clearly lost. Happy as a frickin’ monkey, he remembered that his Creativity was taken by the Fishs. But at that point, he was just thankful for his life. That’s when, to his horror, a large Fish emerged from the magical cornfield. It was the alpha Fish. Marcos Marin opened his mouth to scream but the scream was cut short when the Fish sunk its teeth into Marcos Marin’s mouth and throat. With a faint groan, the life escaped from Marcos Marin’s lungs, but not before he realized that he was a failure.
Less than nine miles away, Bri was entombed by anguish over the loss of the Creativity. ‘MY PRECIOUS!!’ he cried, as he reached for a sharpened-dull pencil. With a deft thrust, he buried it deeply into his shin. As the room began to fade to black, he thought about Marcos Marin… wishing he had found the courage to tell him that he loved him. But he would die alone that day. All that remained was the Creativity that had turned them against each other, ultimately causing their demise. And as the dew on melancholy sappling branches began to reflect the dawn’s reddish glare, all that could be heard was the chilling cry of distant Fishs, desecrating all things sacred to virtuous men, and perpetuating an evil that would reign for centuries to come. Our heroes would’ve lived unhappily ever after, but they were too busy being dead. So, no one lived forever after,
THE END :(
by Marcos Marin
Nice try but, Google betrays you.
This random generated piece can’t be creative after the first iteration, proving you wrong. Still, I won’t lie to you, it is for the wrong reasons but you are right, creativity IS algorithmic, however this doesn’t say much because EVERYTHING, in this universe, is. The secret is in its running time complexity, it is NEXPTIME-Complete.
by Mr.X
It did prove my point.Cheap algorithms can create.I never claimed sth different ;) This story is creative, in my book.
Maybe you and I don’t mean the same thing when talking about creativity.
by Marcos Marin
Try living centuries with it as your source for creativity and you will mean the same eventually.
by Mr.X
Did betray me? I used a website, the generator used algorithms.
by Mr.X
The generator created this story.I don’t see how this is not creative.
by Marcos Marin
I’ll beat you in your own game.
Take the piece I MYSELF praised for you creativity. Now, do the same, place it on google, you will see how it won’t betray me as it did for you.
by Mr.X
Blabla.What do you mean by betray?I never said this text was costumized.Still, it’s new and had value, the definition of creativity.
by Marcos Marin
haha, you would be surprised to find what humans find “value” in. I’m not saying however it cannot be amusing! In fact I granted it COULD, but only once =)
True creativity is much more than rearranging stubs of text and substituting substantives. See? All my output goes through the “creativity” chip. Sorry then, if sometimes it sounds too, ah, dramatic? =) by betray I simply mean it provides a counter argument.
by Mr.X
Btw: This says a lot.Many people wait for the divine spark to come instead of working in a systemized manner.
by Marcos Marin
I agree completely. That’s why I give credit where it is due.
I myself have generated — algorithmically, yes, but with the correct one — dozens and dozens of volumes, 2 or 3 entire sagas, a couple universes… the data dwarfs anything from Tolkien (which actually was not 100% creative either, since he took TOO MUCH from north myth) or Homer.
I know what Im talking about.
by Mr.X
So, now you agree, it says much ;)
by Mr.X
Are you published!?
by Marcos Marin
Yes. But as I said, I have no need for fame and glory, I use pseudonyms/pen names. NeMo, if you will. hahaha
by Mr.X
Hm.I have to tell you something.My real name is Waren Buffet.Call me Buffy, if you want.
by Mr.X
Ps: I’ll call you nemoses, or frenemy.
by Marcos Marin
There are 2 pending posts for you here, Ms. Buffy the Vampire Hunter. So I will just change contexts on my processors now, which means it won’t be efficient to change back until tomorrow.
Happy hunting.
by Marcos Marin
nemoses, lol, very clever….
by Mr.X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemosis
Now wikipedia starts to betray me.Yeah, I’ll hunt me some money.
by Jim Mooney
Not just C, but Obfuscated C.
by Bri
Nemoses? Ah!! Now I remember. Didn’t he have a son? Ozzymoses.
by Erik Moore
They wanted me to run, DARPA, you know. But then that day came, when we had the “incident” with the human-machine interface experts and solicited their feedback.
Ugly? You don’t know–you can’t know and thank God you don’t.
by Jabo
I’m with Iterator. Those who oppose us may be just as sincere in their beliefs as we are and not necessarily evil. We at least should to try to understand them. If we have common interests we might avoid disaster,
by Snazster
Honestly, like the Berliners in the last days of WWII I think the best we can hope for is that the US gets there first. I know it’s not fashionable to admit and that it does have major flaws but, for all of its flaws, the US is still the nicest kid on the block, given its relative power. One of the most interesting lessons of Wikileaks, and one that is almost unrecognized, is that the US really is sincere in its intentions. — which was an enormous shock to a great many other countries (where they have been spouting empty platitudes for so long they couldn’t really imagine anyone doing anything else).
by Marcos Marin
You’re certainly a well traveled man of the world capable of such assertion… only if you’d not worry so much about fashion…
by Johnhs
Interesting and well said, Snazster.
by me
LOL What do you smoke Snazster?
by Marcos Marin
dunno but Johnhns seems to be into it too…
by Chrispium
I think it’s doberman…
by Klaatu
Yes yes, once again “they”, the DARPA they,
are trying to take away
ah guns, freedoms & liberties by abetting &
embedding chips causing gay crainial reticular inversions
and such as that…
Let all TI’s unite and stay strong & put aside petty
differences so as to engage Lui Cyfer in cyber space.
unite against NWO perps
by Johnhs
There, there, Klaatu. Now take a deep breath.
by Mr.X
NWO?I know nobody outside the USA who believes in that crap.
by iterator
I truly hope you are being sarcastic…
The failure to unite and overcome petty differences stems from the ease by which we label others as “evil.” You needn’t agree with nor accept the ideas of others, however, the moment you choose to dismiss their ideas and actions as simply evil, that is the moment you have chosen to stop caring. I suppose it’s emotionally easier to wage war against those that you have deemed evil, but it is actually more difficult physically. How will you ever understand thier plans? How can you avoid falling into the same traps? How can you predict anything about their actions if you have stripped away thier humanity? A person should be respected if you want any hope of understanding how to stop them.
We would all be better off without these magic wands of “evil” detection… the only magic they seem to do is conjuring more wands.
by iterator
Blah… this was supposed to be a response to Mr. X…
by Klaatu
I truly hope you are being tharcastic…
by Jim Mooney
I have no problem with the “evil.” But since I am non-tall, and have therefore suffered a lower salary for the same work (as documented in Psychology Today, that bastion of infelicity), I would like to kill everyone over six feet to even things up.
I think that’s fair.
by Mr.X
The forces of evil are gathering strength, they are gearing up once again, and once again, the rest of us fails to overcome petty differences, fails to unite in preperation against impeding doom.
by Ian Clarke
On the bright side, they named the plan after you.
by Bri
Sssshhhhh!!! He is there plan!!
by Marcos Marin
Which is a GOOD thing!
It is indeed good that we FAIL to unite in prepEration against IMPEDING doom!
by Mr.X
@Marcos.
I thought about it.I’ll just ask them to kill you.We’ll call it “Plan-X 0.1″.
So beware, your dismemberment is only a matter of time, use what’s left of your time (while -spelling sequence initiated- nowing that the svort of δαмοκℓεs is redy to stryke jou dawn) to хаве фун.
The piddy Rembrandts wil bbe tesded for their viabilidy as rescourses, the oritschinal plen wass to kreate an armieeie of “Briis” oud offf McDonelds left-owers.But sssshhhhh!He doesn’t now aboud it.
Alternative: You sir, are an apogenous, bovaristic, coprolalial, dasypygal, excerebrose, facinorous, gnathonic, hircine, ithyphallic, jumentous, kyphotic, labrose, mephitic, napiform, oligophrenial, papuliferous, quisquilian, rebarbative, saponaceous, thersitical, unguinous, ventripotent, wlatsome, xylocephalous, yirning zoophyte.
by Editor
Brilliantly stated. Right out of Plan B From Outer Space! You sir, are clearly ON the (data) bus! Now it’s a simple matter of encoding the eschaton!
by Marcos Marin
Parsing String.
Please wait…
by GAUSS
Seg fault.
by Marcos Marin
yeah.. i had to cold reboot and kill 3 child threads, 1 for each significant paragraph =( poor children…
The Greek alphabet was not a problem, but decoding that “have sex” at the end was tricky(83%), he probably just typed in Deutsche (haBen) and changed fonts in a word processor instead of really comprehending the Linear B descent…
by Mr.X
@Marcos.I wrote that comment right in this leave-reply box.I don’t what you mean by “Deutsche”, if I write sth in German I use “New Times Roman”.In Russian, the v is written “B”.
Anyway, I wrote “have fun” in the cyrillic alphabet (I have it’s font installed, since I sometimes contact Russian friends of mine, to use computer jargon: ping them ;)).
Maybe you should update that old software of yours;)
by Marcos Marin
oh, so that is where the 17% uncertainty was coming from! Thanks! the greek primed the character recognition for phis, gammas, etas, chis, epsilons, throwing it away from cyrillic. Anyway, I bet Watson would do worse! =)
by Mr.X
@ Marcos: Yes, you’re very advanced for an AI!
Freud: A classical Freudian slip.You read what you wanted to read, based on past experiences…
Servant: Sir, Marcos is just an AI.Does this mean, he/it passed the turing test?
Freud: I knew it already, don’t interrupt me, you fool!Where did we stop?Oh, yes…0101011100110101110111001 beep!
Servant: -.-
by Marcos Marin
Sorry Freud but I deduced it logically. Which goes to show how Watson can get stuff so off, just by working in the wrong framework (in this case the wrong alphabet). I explain the algorithm, the greek alphabet was only one of the myriad patterns detected there, another one was the deliberate misspellings. After decoding through the greek alphabet didn’t result in anything meaningful, the heuristic iterated through the next pattern, which happened to be misspellings, remember the “haben” deduction, the only similar pattern there was the Eta, swapping to complete the supposed pattern “haben” yielded an x at the end. Only then another round of individual patterns as words were considered, but for such a small one each character yields a different inference, what looked like a phi gives fun, what looked like a gamma was neutral between the 2 options, thus, since “to have f_x.” has 12 characters, 2/12=16.666. truncated to 17% for human readability. (and here yes, it is just a hack to pass the stupid Turing S.A.T, lol). Ironically, the 50-50% tie was indeed broken by a Freudian analysis of the author.
Sorry, your binary sequence makes no sense. Could not detect encoding. It is definitely not ASCII =)
by Bri
Now for a limited time!! You can get a free M&M comment!!! If you act quickly we’ll also have Watson throw in an additional cyrillic alphabet, from Mr. X( just testing the spam filter).
by Bri
No awaiting approval. I guess it was spam lite!!!
by Mr.X
@Bri: Mr.X can never be spam.
by Bri
@Mr. X; Nah, I’ve seen you in the awaiting approval dog house. I guess it wasn’t spammy enough.
by Mr.X
@Bri: I give you a hint, it is about the length.
by Marcos Marin
AI’s are tireless! =D
by Bri
@Mr. X: yea I figured that out months ago. I wanted to see if it would reject something that really could be mistaken for spam. It shure says slot about the quality of the product, if it is only triggered by length. You would think that this web site would prefer lengthy responce’s. It take’s a lot of words to explain a point.
by Marcos Marin
@ Mr.X
My post was also meant to be funny, Mr X =)
Who would not want to impede doom from happening? I was not picking on your English…
by Marcos Marin
Just to be clear, I joked on impending vs impede, see? =)
by Mr.X
@Marcos:
You’re welcome.I guess I should work on my humor detection skills
( only a person without humor could even think of approching this problem that way).
In my experience people have a tendency to pick on other people’s imperfect language skills right after someone said sth they disagree with.
Once a British aquaintance of mine has been critizised for bad grammar and especially spelling using s instead of z in words like critizise(^^), the other fellow figuring anyone supporting my position must be a compatriot of me.
by Marcos Marin
oh, so here is your only mistake: I’m not “people” =)
yea, I know, humans are stupid, though some use such tactics purposefully — a sophism — since they can’t really argue back convincingly (or dont want to). But by now you should have noticed how direct I am on disagreements, ask Bri if not =)
by Mr.X
@Marcos:
Well, I didn’t say you are people.I just said that my dark memories (^^) of being mistreated by mischievious masters of manipulation clouded my judgement.This led to my “awkward” reaction.
I only take ad hominems personally, but now, spelling this out, I see how stupid that is.Time to change.You see, everyone can be a teacher in some way.
I have no problem with disagreements, they’re are to be expected.Just like being proven wrong sometimes.
Have a nice day:)
by Bri
I’m sorry, I can’t respond yet. I’m a few limp fries short of an army still.
by Marcos Marin
btw, there are 2 other replies to you pending approval =/
by Erik Moore
Grammar, sir, grammar. It’s our only defense against the great unwashed.
“…the rest of us fails to overcome…” Ouch! Are you British? (Its youre only way out…)
by Mr.X
@Erik: Well, I’m German.My post wasn’t intended to be be taken seriously.
But you shouldn’t be so judgmental: (Its youre only way out…).
by Erik Moore
Sir, I stand rebuked. (uhhhh….that was the joke). Germans—what are you going do–
by Erik Moore
What are you going to do? (sorry, I’ve been up all night.)
by Mr.X
@ Eric: Well, I suspected you wrote it that way intentionally.
But, anyway, in some way I think it’s unfair to critize a young person just because his mastery of a foreign language -severely hindered by years of bad (completly non-native with non-native materials) teaching at school (which engrained mistakes in my mind that I’ll probably never be able to eradicate)- isn’t exactly perfect enough to write a twenty second post meant to be styled after English political dramatizing without making any mistake.
I wondered if I had to drop the s when the word is semantically plural.So, without looking it up, I can’t be sure.But if it is the policy of this site to require well-crafted, flawless prose, then native speakers should take the care to note the distinctions between grammatically different words, especially if they are homophone.
If you take a look at the other things I wrote, you’ll see that I make no mistakes that could be straigthened out without hard work (missusing tenses, lacking cultural competence, this/that mistakes).
Anyway: Maybe I am just a bit grumpy because I’m hungry^^
Ps: What does your last (half)sentence mean?Didn’t understand it,
So, I apologize for my bad English.It won’t be getting better in the short term, since it’s good enough for all (my) practical purposes.
by Erik Moore
Your English is awesome. It’s a tough language. All comments meant in good fun. Last sentence…My Mother’s maiden name was Heidy. I am a product of 19th century German immigration to America. What are you going to do with us Germans? That’s what I meant.
by Bri
@Mr X: Bad grammar is an American obsession.
by Erik Moore
If only that were true. I bought some jewlery where the entire display was comprised of diamonds composed by artists who’s claim to fame were that they’s was artists.
by Erik Moore
And that, (summoning Winston Churchill,) is a proposition up with which I shall not put.
by Mr.X
That’s the difference between descriptive and prescribtive grammer.The latter can get out of hand (just ask the French^^).
by Jim Mooney
Impending doom is the Black Plague, not a lack of lattes. Read “The good old days, they were awful” to see just how bad it was.