Comments on: How unconscious processing improves decision-making http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making Accelerating Intelligence Wed, 22 May 2013 08:27:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Brain Molecule Marketing http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99829 Brain Molecule Marketing Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:13:24 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99829 There is little evidence for conscious/verbal processing of any brain processes, let alone those causing behavior. Emotions don't seem to matter either. There is little evidence for conscious/verbal processing of any brain processes, let alone those causing behavior. Emotions don’t seem to matter either.

]]> By: Brain Molecule Marketing http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99720 Brain Molecule Marketing Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:04:38 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99720 In fact, it appears there is no such thing as "decision making" as humans imagine. For example, other animals get along just fine without this. So do plants. It is likely all behavior is unconscious and happens in 150 milliseconds. In fact, it appears there is no such thing as “decision making” as humans imagine. For example, other animals get along just fine without this. So do plants. It is likely all behavior is unconscious and happens in 150 milliseconds.

]]> By: trakk http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99715 trakk Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:50:24 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99715 See....this is why we need more brain research projects :-) See….this is why we need more brain research projects :-)

]]> By: trakk http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99463 trakk Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:47:46 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99463 which parts of the brain are primarily involved in memorising sequences of numbers? anyone? which parts of the brain are primarily involved in memorising sequences of numbers? anyone?

]]> By: MvB http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99302 MvB Sat, 16 Feb 2013 22:16:59 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99302 So, it seems, they really are everywhere. Beware! So, it seems, they really are everywhere. Beware!

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99262 Bri Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:20:07 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99262 Actually German Shepards were bred for just such a siduatiin. Let us know how it works out. Actually German Shepards were bred for just such a siduatiin. Let us know how it works out.

]]> By: Gorden Russell http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99258 Gorden Russell Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:01:17 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99258 You've met them too, MvB? A trans-dimensional nazi-communist-cyborg-zombie from hell moved in down the street from me last March and boy is he paranoid. He runs out of his house in his purple evening gown accusing me of letting my dog go on his lawn and claims to have found plastic bags of dog poo on his lawn, even though I've stopped walking down his side of the street and keep pointing out to him that my stool sample is right there on the end of my garden spade. Not even dog poo can be in two places at the same time. But he is intransigent and continues to promise that he will get some bath salts and then bite my 105 pound German shepherd right in the middle of his forehead. This is not only a crazy thing to say, it is stupid. Just where does he think the dog's teeth will be while he is busy gnawing between the dog's ears? That is just crazy-stupid. You’ve met them too, MvB? A trans-dimensional nazi-communist-cyborg-zombie from hell moved in down the street from me last March and boy is he paranoid. He runs out of his house in his purple evening gown accusing me of letting my dog go on his lawn and claims to have found plastic bags of dog poo on his lawn, even though I’ve stopped walking down his side of the street and keep pointing out to him that my stool sample is right there on the end of my garden spade. Not even dog poo can be in two places at the same time.

But he is intransigent and continues to promise that he will get some bath salts and then bite my 105 pound German shepherd right in the middle of his forehead.

This is not only a crazy thing to say, it is stupid. Just where does he think the dog’s teeth will be while he is busy gnawing between the dog’s ears? That is just crazy-stupid.

]]> By: Ian http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99153 Ian Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:02:47 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99153 That's EXACTLY what happened to me! That’s EXACTLY what happened to me!

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99105 WLGJR Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:38:51 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99105 “sleep on a decision.” Bruce Lee was once asked: "Do you believe in God?" He answered: "I believe in sleeping." - From Wikipedia “sleep on a decision.”
Bruce Lee was once asked: “Do you believe in God?”
He answered: “I believe in sleeping.” – From Wikipedia

]]> By: Ralph Dratman http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99087 Ralph Dratman Sat, 16 Feb 2013 03:09:12 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99087 I do find it surprising that two minutes would be much help, especially if the time is filled with distractions from the earlier thinking session. On the other hand, when we watch a politician "stalling for time" before answering a tough question, the amount of time gained is usually a few tens of seconds, not even as long as the two-minute distraction task described in this article. I do find it surprising that two minutes would be much help, especially if the time is filled with distractions from the earlier thinking session. On the other hand, when we watch a politician “stalling for time” before answering a tough question, the amount of time gained is usually a few tens of seconds, not even as long as the two-minute distraction task described in this article.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99065 Bri Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:14:33 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99065 My understanding of meditation is different than what you postulate. There was an excellent article here awhile back that illuminated the profound effects of meditation on the brain. It's more of a house cleaning, recslibration and connectivity promoting activity. If your brain is processing information and unconsciously making decisions then I don't think you are doing it right. It should unclog your mind, fostering interconnectivity of different brain regions. Rwy describes a related technique that he uses to problem solve. Before sleeping he presents information related to whatever issues he wants to address. Then clearly states the problem. This prompts the brain to process it unconsciously as he sleeps. It's a powerful technique that many people use. In reality it's pretty close to the opposite of meditation. My understanding of meditation is different than what you postulate. There was an excellent article here awhile back that illuminated the profound effects of meditation on the brain. It’s more of a house cleaning, recslibration and connectivity promoting activity. If your brain is processing information and unconsciously making decisions then I don’t think you are doing it right. It should unclog your mind, fostering interconnectivity of different brain regions. Rwy describes a related technique that he uses to problem solve. Before sleeping he presents information related to whatever issues he wants to address. Then clearly states the problem. This prompts the brain to process it unconsciously as he sleeps. It’s a powerful technique that many people use. In reality it’s pretty close to the opposite of meditation.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99062 Bri Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:59:59 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99062 Peter it's always good to see your posts. I agree whole heartedly with your assessment of the educational system. Where as your points are well taken I'm not shure of the connection to unconscious mental processing in relation to decision making. Peter it’s always good to see your posts. I agree whole heartedly with your assessment of the educational system. Where as your points are well taken I’m not shure of the connection to unconscious mental processing in relation to decision making.

]]> By: Peter Kinnon http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99046 Peter Kinnon Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:31:45 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99046 The involvement of de novo students with research provides a good model for conversion of the current trend of rote-learning/empty qualification factories that is so prevalent in today's educational system. Firstly, this approach can greatly increase motivation in those with "the right stuff". Those who do not respond to such motivation are really wasting their time at university anyway. Secondly, the natural learning mode of our species (and others for that matter) is interactive. My daughter took a chemistry degree and was hardly allowed to interact with reagents due to health and safety regulations. There was almost no hands-on involvement for instrumental methods, either. Like the majority of her peers, she passed her exams, got her degree, and retains very little understanding of Chemistry apart from specifics she has picked up subsequently in industry. Passive learning is inefficient, superficial and temporary. The involvement of de novo students with research provides a good model for conversion of the current trend of rote-learning/empty qualification factories that is so prevalent in today’s educational system.

Firstly, this approach can greatly increase motivation in those with “the right stuff”. Those who do not respond to such motivation are really wasting their time at university anyway.

Secondly, the natural learning mode of our species (and others for that matter) is interactive.

My daughter took a chemistry degree and was hardly allowed to interact with reagents due to health and safety regulations.

There was almost no hands-on involvement for instrumental methods, either.

Like the majority of her peers, she passed her exams, got her degree, and retains very little understanding of Chemistry apart from specifics she has picked up subsequently in industry.

Passive learning is inefficient, superficial and temporary.

]]> By: humanitarian http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99043 humanitarian Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:55:46 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99043 Whether the decision making helps common good or selfish interests is something to consider. For example, many meditatators, of diverse faiths, have found yielding rich results, including profound scientific truths. So, this study does confirm the validity of ancient meditation technique. Whether the decision making helps common good or selfish interests is something to consider. For example, many meditatators, of diverse faiths, have found yielding rich results, including profound scientific truths. So, this study does confirm the validity of ancient meditation technique.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-99007 Bri Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:18:51 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-99007 This article descibes a process that is similiar to how I address information. I think it's relativel universal. I read the article. At first I have thoughts and impressions, but I'll read other articles or do other things. The information will represent itself in my mind from time to time. When I reread or go to post an idea it's had a chance to develope subconsciously. This article descibes a process that is similiar to how I address information. I think it’s relativel universal. I read the article. At first I have thoughts and impressions, but I’ll read other articles or do other things. The information will represent itself in my mind from time to time. When I reread or go to post an idea it’s had a chance to develope subconsciously.

]]> By: MMC2100704 http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-98988 MMC2100704 Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:00:38 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-98988 experiences experiences

]]> By: MMC2100704 http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-98983 MMC2100704 Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:56:21 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-98983 I'm a firm beliver of innate wisdom , another (unconsious?) discriptive of this study. The, "old wives tales," have merit in that the "tales" are rooted in age old experience, such as "sleep on a decision." Some are as a result of ignorance but many are surprisingly spot on. There is no doubt that the unconsiousness continues to delve on a problem. It is as basic and as simplistic as your own exdperiences if you stop to think about it. I was hoping toi find an intellectual discourse of Kurzweilai newsletter material -- well -- not on this subject anyway. I’m a firm beliver of innate wisdom , another (unconsious?) discriptive of this study. The, “old wives tales,” have merit in that the “tales” are rooted in age old experience, such as “sleep on a decision.” Some are as a result of ignorance but many are surprisingly spot on. There is no doubt that the unconsiousness continues to delve on a problem. It is as basic and as simplistic as your own exdperiences if you stop to think about it.

I was hoping toi find an intellectual discourse of Kurzweilai newsletter material — well — not on this subject anyway.

]]> By: Sherrie http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-98964 Sherrie Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:14:08 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-98964 I do hope you are being sarcastic. People change according to the fully public behaviors, teachings and experiences everyone knows about. why would anyone make this type of secret effort knowing before they start that people do not ever react to any stimulus in the same way? I do hope you are being sarcastic. People change according to the fully public behaviors, teachings and experiences everyone knows about. why would anyone make this type of secret effort knowing before they start that people do not ever react to any stimulus in the same way?

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-98927 WLGJR Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:05:14 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-98927 Well, what I said is more doable now than, let's say, a few years ago. You remind me of the meme of "This Man" which was featured on Wired.com a few years ago (the Man in the story does not manipulate consciousness, but is equally creepy) www.thisman.org Well, what I said is more doable now than, let’s say, a few years ago.

You remind me of the meme of “This Man” which was featured on Wired.com a few years ago (the Man in the story does not manipulate consciousness, but is equally creepy)
http://www.thisman.org

]]> By: MvB http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-98922 MvB Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:47:09 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-98922 But there is also the possibility that transdimensional nazi-communist-cyborg-zombies from hell are manipulating our conscious mental processes directly via ether. But there is also the possibility that transdimensional nazi-communist-cyborg-zombies from hell are manipulating our conscious mental processes directly via ether.

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-unconscious-processing-improves-decision-making/comment-page-1#comment-98875 WLGJR Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:00:55 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=180589#comment-98875 I believe there is the possibility that some government groups and corporations monitor (or even influence) their employees' subconscious mental processes via devices enbedded in the uniforms, desks and other locations. I believe there is the possibility that some government groups and corporations monitor (or even influence) their employees’ subconscious mental processes via devices enbedded in the uniforms, desks and other locations.

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