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		<title>By: Kevin Haskell</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/internet-activists-on-red-alert-ahead-of-united-nations-conference/comment-page-1#comment-56743</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Haskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ITU meetings start in a week. I just spread the 4 minute video overview of what the problem is all around FB groups, G+, and Twitter. Hopefully, everybody else will stay on this.  The election in the U.S. really kept the world&#039;s eyes off of what was happening in the ITU/U.N.  We are running short on time to make ourselves heard.  My concern is that with 700 global companies pushing for this, Obama, who could stop this, might go ahead and sign it because of their pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ITU meetings start in a week. I just spread the 4 minute video overview of what the problem is all around FB groups, G+, and Twitter. Hopefully, everybody else will stay on this.  The election in the U.S. really kept the world&#8217;s eyes off of what was happening in the ITU/U.N.  We are running short on time to make ourselves heard.  My concern is that with 700 global companies pushing for this, Obama, who could stop this, might go ahead and sign it because of their pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re saying the exact same thing except that instead of assuming you&#039;ll hurt yourself you&#039;re assuming that someone will hurt someone else. It&#039;s still based on the premise that as individuals we are inept and violent and need a mommy or daddy government to tell us all how to act. How many more laws do we need? Will a global government finally solve all of our problems? Do we just need to give up a little more liberty and things will be perfect? We already have thousands of laws and people still hurt each other, though not as many as the nightly news would have you believe. And as long as you&#039;re worrying about people hurting other people perhaps you should look into what governments have done to people. Governments have killed more than 200million people in the 20th century alone...these are the people we should have making sure we don&#039;t hurt anyone? Even the most prolific serial killers can&#039;t compare to that.

Wanting an entity, that historically has been a brutal mass murderer, to be the moral compass of a society seems like a bit of a contradiction. I understand that this may be a difficult concept, but perhaps we can do things a better way. Perhaps instead of looking to place more and more power into the hand of an ever smaller and smaller few isn&#039;t the answer. Perhaps people aren&#039;t the violent savages we&#039;ve been led to believe they are? Perhaps the true violent savages are those people we continually put into power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re saying the exact same thing except that instead of assuming you&#8217;ll hurt yourself you&#8217;re assuming that someone will hurt someone else. It&#8217;s still based on the premise that as individuals we are inept and violent and need a mommy or daddy government to tell us all how to act. How many more laws do we need? Will a global government finally solve all of our problems? Do we just need to give up a little more liberty and things will be perfect? We already have thousands of laws and people still hurt each other, though not as many as the nightly news would have you believe. And as long as you&#8217;re worrying about people hurting other people perhaps you should look into what governments have done to people. Governments have killed more than 200million people in the 20th century alone&#8230;these are the people we should have making sure we don&#8217;t hurt anyone? Even the most prolific serial killers can&#8217;t compare to that.</p>
<p>Wanting an entity, that historically has been a brutal mass murderer, to be the moral compass of a society seems like a bit of a contradiction. I understand that this may be a difficult concept, but perhaps we can do things a better way. Perhaps instead of looking to place more and more power into the hand of an ever smaller and smaller few isn&#8217;t the answer. Perhaps people aren&#8217;t the violent savages we&#8217;ve been led to believe they are? Perhaps the true violent savages are those people we continually put into power?</p>
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		<title>By: craigers61</title>
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		<dc:creator>craigers61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are sorely mistaken the UN is a top down command and control STATE entity; it is the elimination of true freedom and democracy. You have NO voting rights within it. It is run by big crony corporations and a global political elite for their own benefit. 

You bought the propaganda but have none of the facts. The internet is the evolution of a new governance model, Omniarchy that is emerging from the ground up. The political states historical role is coming to an end, they all know it, that is why they are desperately fighting to control it and limit it. It is time the ole pyramidal model arising form the simian brain be overthrown once and for all. 

The Singularity society doesn’t need politicians as it is based on a new holographic paradigm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are sorely mistaken the UN is a top down command and control STATE entity; it is the elimination of true freedom and democracy. You have NO voting rights within it. It is run by big crony corporations and a global political elite for their own benefit. </p>
<p>You bought the propaganda but have none of the facts. The internet is the evolution of a new governance model, Omniarchy that is emerging from the ground up. The political states historical role is coming to an end, they all know it, that is why they are desperately fighting to control it and limit it. It is time the ole pyramidal model arising form the simian brain be overthrown once and for all. </p>
<p>The Singularity society doesn’t need politicians as it is based on a new holographic paradigm.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 07:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;how to create ways of communicating outside of the present Internet&quot;: one suggestion is amateur radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio), which allows for direct wireless local and global shortwave communications (on some frequency bands), and also has its own (slower, limited) version of the Internet (it allows for data and video communications in certain bands). It also plays an important role in emergencies, such in the Sandy hurricane. I&#039;d be glad to help anyone with questions, and there are helpful &quot;hams&quot; (amateur radio operators) worldwide. --- Amara, KF6TEJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;how to create ways of communicating outside of the present Internet&#8221;: one suggestion is amateur radio (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio</a>), which allows for direct wireless local and global shortwave communications (on some frequency bands), and also has its own (slower, limited) version of the Internet (it allows for data and video communications in certain bands). It also plays an important role in emergencies, such in the Sandy hurricane. I&#8217;d be glad to help anyone with questions, and there are helpful &#8220;hams&#8221; (amateur radio operators) worldwide. &#8212; Amara, KF6TEJ</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Haskell</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/internet-activists-on-red-alert-ahead-of-united-nations-conference/comment-page-1#comment-54143</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Haskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Amara.

 I&#039;ve posted situation about this elsewhere in various FB groups and G+, but this article I expanded the groups with whom I shared it.  I&#039;m hoping the word get&#039;s out very quickly, and very soon, although I don&#039;t know if we can make a change as the Internet users of the world did with SOPA, ACTA, and PIPA. Time is short, this effort is global by the world&#039;s governments and at least 700 global corporations, and people are unaware this is even happening. 

Perhaps KurzweilAI can start showing people how to create ways of communicating outside of the present Internet and Internet 2? DIY tech? Dark nets? Something else? Anything?

If the U.N. and it&#039;s multitude of fascist governments control our communications, we are &#039;all&#039; screwed.

Best,
Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Amara.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve posted situation about this elsewhere in various FB groups and G+, but this article I expanded the groups with whom I shared it.  I&#8217;m hoping the word get&#8217;s out very quickly, and very soon, although I don&#8217;t know if we can make a change as the Internet users of the world did with SOPA, ACTA, and PIPA. Time is short, this effort is global by the world&#8217;s governments and at least 700 global corporations, and people are unaware this is even happening. </p>
<p>Perhaps KurzweilAI can start showing people how to create ways of communicating outside of the present Internet and Internet 2? DIY tech? Dark nets? Something else? Anything?</p>
<p>If the U.N. and it&#8217;s multitude of fascist governments control our communications, we are &#8216;all&#8217; screwed.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: eldras</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can address Q 1. How permanent is the internet:

What the net does from one persoect9ve is asks for or publishes information. Its arranged in various forms. The moment systems are sophisticated enough to generate information, no other source will be needed. ie the new system which could be housed in your own personal machine, could build any facts you want by working them out.
This is not as weird as it seems, we are discussing simulations of the cosmos taking a finite number. The Bekenstein bound used to be involved in calculations but may have detractiors.

By Moore&#039;s Law we should be able to simulate or universe in just over 1000 years, but this discounts the advance of quantum computers (one with under 200 qbits will outperform all computers on earth at present).
My guess is that we&#039;ll achieve it in the early 2020&#039;s. Nick Bostrom and Frank Tipler have brought forth calculations of required processing power.
But everything else will be moving and people will be morphing in complexity. If this happens relatively, some form of interaction may be profitable so the internet or medium could continue past then, tending to perfect laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can address Q 1. How permanent is the internet:</p>
<p>What the net does from one persoect9ve is asks for or publishes information. Its arranged in various forms. The moment systems are sophisticated enough to generate information, no other source will be needed. ie the new system which could be housed in your own personal machine, could build any facts you want by working them out.<br />
This is not as weird as it seems, we are discussing simulations of the cosmos taking a finite number. The Bekenstein bound used to be involved in calculations but may have detractiors.</p>
<p>By Moore&#8217;s Law we should be able to simulate or universe in just over 1000 years, but this discounts the advance of quantum computers (one with under 200 qbits will outperform all computers on earth at present).<br />
My guess is that we&#8217;ll achieve it in the early 2020&#8242;s. Nick Bostrom and Frank Tipler have brought forth calculations of required processing power.<br />
But everything else will be moving and people will be morphing in complexity. If this happens relatively, some form of interaction may be profitable so the internet or medium could continue past then, tending to perfect laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell I didn&#039;t express myself well enough -- let me try it again, and hopefully you guys can get a clearer picture.

We live in a small social world, there is no denying that....people talk about privacy all the time and complain that we continously don&#039;t have any. On the grand scale however, I ask how much one thinks they have now....almost all of us know somebody who knows and cares for us, have a family (not in the sense of having kids, but in general)....I&#039;m thinking, when I&#039;m expressing myself like this, of &#039;privacy&#039; in a much much more broader scale.

The place we live, the people we meet, the taxes we pay, the TV channels we watch, the car we drive....every single thing we do expresses something about ourselves to somebody; somebody I&#039;ve never can probably construct a whole profile of me just from the data on the internet -- in that extreme sense, we have no privacy....we never really did. Our lives are built socially, and even if we live very solitary lives, there is somebody out there who knows and is keeping tabs on you.

That may sound like an exaggerated way of looking at the word, but I feel this way when I hear some people complaining about privacy...because it feels in a sense like they act like, in a greater sense anyway, like they actually have any. Because, as I tried to express before, the only way to have the exaggerated sense of privacy some people wish they had....well....you&#039;d have to live &quot;off the grid&quot; as I expressed -- living like a nomad or something in a lifestyle that will completely unnecessary and probably very difficult. There are probably several who do live this sort of life, and while far be it from me to criticize, I feel the need to point out this is unnecessary.

Of course, truthfully, most people are thinking like this, even those complain endlessly about privacy -- they are happy about the benefits and happiness they receive by being and living in the social world that we do - they just worry about their privacy in a smaller scale because they don&#039;t want to lose more of that, and a big issue with that is, responsibility and how much they put out there. In general though, on a grander scale, the point I was trying to make out is how vague &quot;privacy&quot; is in this day and age, why that is mostly a good thing, and that it undoubtedly will continue....because as the world continues to shrink, the benefits increase -- what benefits? Everything really....the ability to express ourselves (the Internet is one such example -- communication like no other, but it brought in a huge range of issues) for one...the relationship between the government and individuals will increase (which of course, is more complicated then a single sentence could ever express, but their are scores of obvious benefits -- I like knowing I could call 911 and people will help me if I need it)....

Think about it -- if Kurzweil&#039;s vision is correct, privacy will continue to cease to exist, but the intimacy and empowerment it brings when everyone is so connected will be unbelievable. Is it vastly more complicated then this and liberty/privacy still thinks to ever-fight for? Of course they are, I wasn&#039;t marginalizing that....I was speaking from a broad historical sense however -- the world has become smaller and more connected and it&#039;s been a give and take; constantly a huge range of issues...my point was to always express, despite that, that the good far outweighs the bad - I&#039;m happy to be born in this complicated small social world....and while both the good and bad will amplify when this progresses, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d mind the world of the future in which power become even more connected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell I didn&#8217;t express myself well enough &#8212; let me try it again, and hopefully you guys can get a clearer picture.</p>
<p>We live in a small social world, there is no denying that&#8230;.people talk about privacy all the time and complain that we continously don&#8217;t have any. On the grand scale however, I ask how much one thinks they have now&#8230;.almost all of us know somebody who knows and cares for us, have a family (not in the sense of having kids, but in general)&#8230;.I&#8217;m thinking, when I&#8217;m expressing myself like this, of &#8216;privacy&#8217; in a much much more broader scale.</p>
<p>The place we live, the people we meet, the taxes we pay, the TV channels we watch, the car we drive&#8230;.every single thing we do expresses something about ourselves to somebody; somebody I&#8217;ve never can probably construct a whole profile of me just from the data on the internet &#8212; in that extreme sense, we have no privacy&#8230;.we never really did. Our lives are built socially, and even if we live very solitary lives, there is somebody out there who knows and is keeping tabs on you.</p>
<p>That may sound like an exaggerated way of looking at the word, but I feel this way when I hear some people complaining about privacy&#8230;because it feels in a sense like they act like, in a greater sense anyway, like they actually have any. Because, as I tried to express before, the only way to have the exaggerated sense of privacy some people wish they had&#8230;.well&#8230;.you&#8217;d have to live &#8220;off the grid&#8221; as I expressed &#8212; living like a nomad or something in a lifestyle that will completely unnecessary and probably very difficult. There are probably several who do live this sort of life, and while far be it from me to criticize, I feel the need to point out this is unnecessary.</p>
<p>Of course, truthfully, most people are thinking like this, even those complain endlessly about privacy &#8212; they are happy about the benefits and happiness they receive by being and living in the social world that we do &#8211; they just worry about their privacy in a smaller scale because they don&#8217;t want to lose more of that, and a big issue with that is, responsibility and how much they put out there. In general though, on a grander scale, the point I was trying to make out is how vague &#8220;privacy&#8221; is in this day and age, why that is mostly a good thing, and that it undoubtedly will continue&#8230;.because as the world continues to shrink, the benefits increase &#8212; what benefits? Everything really&#8230;.the ability to express ourselves (the Internet is one such example &#8212; communication like no other, but it brought in a huge range of issues) for one&#8230;the relationship between the government and individuals will increase (which of course, is more complicated then a single sentence could ever express, but their are scores of obvious benefits &#8212; I like knowing I could call 911 and people will help me if I need it)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Think about it &#8212; if Kurzweil&#8217;s vision is correct, privacy will continue to cease to exist, but the intimacy and empowerment it brings when everyone is so connected will be unbelievable. Is it vastly more complicated then this and liberty/privacy still thinks to ever-fight for? Of course they are, I wasn&#8217;t marginalizing that&#8230;.I was speaking from a broad historical sense however &#8212; the world has become smaller and more connected and it&#8217;s been a give and take; constantly a huge range of issues&#8230;my point was to always express, despite that, that the good far outweighs the bad &#8211; I&#8217;m happy to be born in this complicated small social world&#8230;.and while both the good and bad will amplify when this progresses, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d mind the world of the future in which power become even more connected.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some questions I&#039;m pondering --- I welcome your thoughts: 

1.How permanent is the &quot;Internet&quot;? Will there be many internets (lower case) and if so, how will they communicate?
2. What happens when the Internet forks (as in Iran and China)?  
3. What will be the future of Internet2 (http://www.internet2.edu/) and how will it impact the Internet and will that be called Internet1? 
4. What is and will be the relationship of these multiple internets to the global economy and its control structure? 
5 Will internets become like today&#039;s media networks, competing for income, influence, and control?
6. How much power does ITU have? 
7. How much control do the 13 root DNS servers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server) have and who controls them? 
8. How much influence does the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) have (http://www.icann.org/)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some questions I&#8217;m pondering &#8212; I welcome your thoughts: </p>
<p>1.How permanent is the &#8220;Internet&#8221;? Will there be many internets (lower case) and if so, how will they communicate?<br />
2. What happens when the Internet forks (as in Iran and China)?<br />
3. What will be the future of Internet2 (<a href="http://www.internet2.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.internet2.edu/</a>) and how will it impact the Internet and will that be called Internet1?<br />
4. What is and will be the relationship of these multiple internets to the global economy and its control structure?<br />
5 Will internets become like today&#8217;s media networks, competing for income, influence, and control?<br />
6. How much power does ITU have?<br />
7. How much control do the 13 root DNS servers (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server</a>) have and who controls them?<br />
8. How much influence does the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) have (<a href="http://www.icann.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.icann.org/</a>)?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gabriel: &quot;but again, the benefits we get from this ever-shrinking world are too great to ignore…&quot;

Which benefits are you speaking about?

&quot;Privacy is an illusion in many ways already, and I’m not complaining…&quot;

Doctor: The patient is ill, kill him!
Nurse: But...
Doctor: He wouldn&#039;t be here if he were healthy!
Nurse:...
Doctor:Dammit Judy!Give me that syringe!

Patient:oh....

Doctor: Operation successful, patient dead!Let&#039;s call it a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gabriel: &#8220;but again, the benefits we get from this ever-shrinking world are too great to ignore…&#8221;</p>
<p>Which benefits are you speaking about?</p>
<p>&#8220;Privacy is an illusion in many ways already, and I’m not complaining…&#8221;</p>
<p>Doctor: The patient is ill, kill him!<br />
Nurse: But&#8230;<br />
Doctor: He wouldn&#8217;t be here if he were healthy!<br />
Nurse:&#8230;<br />
Doctor:Dammit Judy!Give me that syringe!</p>
<p>Patient:oh&#8230;.</p>
<p>Doctor: Operation successful, patient dead!Let&#8217;s call it a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David: Feel the powerful grip of the third world: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/17/iran-usforeignpolicy

&quot;It will be the end of the internet as we know it&quot;

It will end anyway, so who cares?Change is a fact of life, so we might as well come to terms with it now.I hate it to break it to you, but someday you (as you know yourself), too, will end.

Btw: The internet is already quite different from -say- 10 years ago.

And who cares if a foreign country is a dictatorship: The only thing that is really important to non-citizens of said country is it&#039;s foreign policy/policies which have an effect on other countries.Something in which self-proclaimed &quot;democracies&quot; are not any more trustworthy than others.

I don&#039;t trust a country that proclaims corperations to be people to regulate the internet in &quot;our&quot; best interest.

The best thing would be -imho- to just let the non-governmental users continue to &quot;evolve&quot; the internet.

As I say: Have a  nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: Feel the powerful grip of the third world: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/17/iran-usforeignpolicy" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/17/iran-usforeignpolicy</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It will be the end of the internet as we know it&#8221;</p>
<p>It will end anyway, so who cares?Change is a fact of life, so we might as well come to terms with it now.I hate it to break it to you, but someday you (as you know yourself), too, will end.</p>
<p>Btw: The internet is already quite different from -say- 10 years ago.</p>
<p>And who cares if a foreign country is a dictatorship: The only thing that is really important to non-citizens of said country is it&#8217;s foreign policy/policies which have an effect on other countries.Something in which self-proclaimed &#8220;democracies&#8221; are not any more trustworthy than others.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust a country that proclaims corperations to be people to regulate the internet in &#8220;our&#8221; best interest.</p>
<p>The best thing would be -imho- to just let the non-governmental users continue to &#8220;evolve&#8221; the internet.</p>
<p>As I say: Have a  nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ish Shalom</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ish Shalom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UN General Assembly is basically controlled by the majority of third world countries, corrupted and dictatorial and the Security Council is under the veto of dictatorships like Rusha and China. It will be the end of the internet as we know it if the corrupted UN will have any measure of control over the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN General Assembly is basically controlled by the majority of third world countries, corrupted and dictatorial and the Security Council is under the veto of dictatorships like Rusha and China. It will be the end of the internet as we know it if the corrupted UN will have any measure of control over the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: DougW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you can find information about this incident online, at places like 
globalpolitcalawakening.blogspot.com. Of course this is a site mostly populated with people who enjoy making up conspiracy stories on the days they forgot to take their meds, so take that for what it is worth. The reality is that in this country, attempts to &#039;hide&#039; important information  never succeed for long. There is simply too many ways top make money by exposing these &#039;secrets&#039;, too many avenues of getting information out. The &#039;conspiracy&#039; would need to include so many people it could never be contained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you can find information about this incident online, at places like<br />
globalpolitcalawakening.blogspot.com. Of course this is a site mostly populated with people who enjoy making up conspiracy stories on the days they forgot to take their meds, so take that for what it is worth. The reality is that in this country, attempts to &#8216;hide&#8217; important information  never succeed for long. There is simply too many ways top make money by exposing these &#8216;secrets&#8217;, too many avenues of getting information out. The &#8216;conspiracy&#8217; would need to include so many people it could never be contained.</p>
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		<title>By: DougW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DougW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 13:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, you are also oversimplifying, does that make you also a troll? Let&#039;s examine your statement: “I love you, but you need to do what i tell you, because you will injure your self with so much freedom and no due diligence and responsability”. Did you ever consider the alternative: “I love you, but with unlimited freedom, there is a pretty good chance that you will do things which have a severely negative impact on other members of our society. Thus I must carefully monitor apsects of your freedom that encroach on the freedom of your neighbors. Unless, that is, you prefer that we just have these conflicts setlled locally with violence”. So, before you worry so much about the fallacies in other people&#039;s thinking, take a long look at your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, you are also oversimplifying, does that make you also a troll? Let&#8217;s examine your statement: “I love you, but you need to do what i tell you, because you will injure your self with so much freedom and no due diligence and responsability”. Did you ever consider the alternative: “I love you, but with unlimited freedom, there is a pretty good chance that you will do things which have a severely negative impact on other members of our society. Thus I must carefully monitor apsects of your freedom that encroach on the freedom of your neighbors. Unless, that is, you prefer that we just have these conflicts setlled locally with violence”. So, before you worry so much about the fallacies in other people&#8217;s thinking, take a long look at your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you are a troll for the love of (?) 
If not, this is some argument you make, lets take a better look. I have some questions for you, 
1) What makes you believe that the ultimate intent of a global government is to make its constituents happier by increasing their  governing efficiency, ? the idea here is &quot;I love you, but you need to do what i tell you, because you will injure your self with so much freedom and no due diligence and responsability&quot;
2)How does becoming a member of the UNA assures more &quot;so called democracy&quot; for the world by decreasing freeflow of information?
3) How many WMDs have been constructed by raging hackers and individuals with mental problems and how many are being built by taxing the ever ready citizens like your self and me in the name of democracy etc. ? 
I want to make it clear that my intent here is to possibly have you detect any fallacies you may have not noticed in your thinking or anyone else reading this .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you are a troll for the love of (?)<br />
If not, this is some argument you make, lets take a better look. I have some questions for you,<br />
1) What makes you believe that the ultimate intent of a global government is to make its constituents happier by increasing their  governing efficiency, ? the idea here is &#8220;I love you, but you need to do what i tell you, because you will injure your self with so much freedom and no due diligence and responsability&#8221;<br />
2)How does becoming a member of the UNA assures more &#8220;so called democracy&#8221; for the world by decreasing freeflow of information?<br />
3) How many WMDs have been constructed by raging hackers and individuals with mental problems and how many are being built by taxing the ever ready citizens like your self and me in the name of democracy etc. ?<br />
I want to make it clear that my intent here is to possibly have you detect any fallacies you may have not noticed in your thinking or anyone else reading this .</p>
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		<title>By: nutella</title>
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		<dc:creator>nutella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you say: &quot;we have “no” privacy already and that will increasingly grow, but with it, the benefits will be further and further empowerment and opportunities for happiness and fulfillment.&quot;

Note that&#039;s exactly what the proponents of the &quot;new world order&quot; want to install: everybody is given the illusion of feeling happy, but only as long as he adopts the official ideology. And with the total control that goes with it, there may be more similarities with a system like in N. Korea than with what we are still benefitting now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you say: &#8220;we have “no” privacy already and that will increasingly grow, but with it, the benefits will be further and further empowerment and opportunities for happiness and fulfillment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note that&#8217;s exactly what the proponents of the &#8220;new world order&#8221; want to install: everybody is given the illusion of feeling happy, but only as long as he adopts the official ideology. And with the total control that goes with it, there may be more similarities with a system like in N. Korea than with what we are still benefitting now.</p>
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		<title>By: René Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>René Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all your points.  But i believe that before the U.N can actually successfully assume these roles, ways need to be found to reduce the power of nations in the decision making bodies.  How ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all your points.  But i believe that before the U.N can actually successfully assume these roles, ways need to be found to reduce the power of nations in the decision making bodies.  How ?</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/internet-activists-on-red-alert-ahead-of-united-nations-conference/comment-page-1#comment-53639</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t go that far Dr...while their may be issues, the benefits of the Internet are nothing short of undeniable. Is it a flawless picture? No, of course it isn&#039;t, and it probably never will be.....privacy concerns and the balance of liberty/security, protection from viruses and cyber-criminals....it&#039;s not a flawless picture by any means, but the promise of the Internet undeniably is far then the peril it brings up. I will quote Kurzweil: &quot;Nobody is saying we should get rid of the Internet because of the threat of software viruses&quot;.

liberty and security....these are important concerns, yes, but essentially, I question how much freedom and privacy one thinks they even have already in this day and age. Unless you&#039;d like to live &quot;off the grid&quot;, the simple (or hard, depending on you) truth is that we live in a small social world that is getting more smaller and social as time goes on....the individual becomes more empowered overtime, but through it, issues of privacy and security continue to grow....It&#039;s a give and take that we must learn to deal with.

Privacy is an illusion in many ways already, and I&#039;m not complaining...do I care about privacy? Of course I do...but again, the benefits we get from this ever-shrinking world are too great to ignore...again, unless I chose to chase the past, live &quot;off the grid&quot; in an unnecessarily difficult and hard lifestyle for the sake of pursuing some illusion of privacy, the bigger picture is...we have &quot;no&quot; privacy already and that will increasingly grow, but with it, the benefits will be further and further empowerment and opportunities for happiness and fulfillment.

Privacy and Liberty are things to always fight for, and like SOPA, we can succeed....but we can&#039;t miss the bigger picture, and both the good and bad (depending on your viewpoint) it brings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go that far Dr&#8230;while their may be issues, the benefits of the Internet are nothing short of undeniable. Is it a flawless picture? No, of course it isn&#8217;t, and it probably never will be&#8230;..privacy concerns and the balance of liberty/security, protection from viruses and cyber-criminals&#8230;.it&#8217;s not a flawless picture by any means, but the promise of the Internet undeniably is far then the peril it brings up. I will quote Kurzweil: &#8220;Nobody is saying we should get rid of the Internet because of the threat of software viruses&#8221;.</p>
<p>liberty and security&#8230;.these are important concerns, yes, but essentially, I question how much freedom and privacy one thinks they even have already in this day and age. Unless you&#8217;d like to live &#8220;off the grid&#8221;, the simple (or hard, depending on you) truth is that we live in a small social world that is getting more smaller and social as time goes on&#8230;.the individual becomes more empowered overtime, but through it, issues of privacy and security continue to grow&#8230;.It&#8217;s a give and take that we must learn to deal with.</p>
<p>Privacy is an illusion in many ways already, and I&#8217;m not complaining&#8230;do I care about privacy? Of course I do&#8230;but again, the benefits we get from this ever-shrinking world are too great to ignore&#8230;again, unless I chose to chase the past, live &#8220;off the grid&#8221; in an unnecessarily difficult and hard lifestyle for the sake of pursuing some illusion of privacy, the bigger picture is&#8230;we have &#8220;no&#8221; privacy already and that will increasingly grow, but with it, the benefits will be further and further empowerment and opportunities for happiness and fulfillment.</p>
<p>Privacy and Liberty are things to always fight for, and like SOPA, we can succeed&#8230;.but we can&#8217;t miss the bigger picture, and both the good and bad (depending on your viewpoint) it brings.</p>
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		<title>By: JD Eveland</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD Eveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds delightful in theory, and would be useful were the United Nations anything like a responsible and accountable governing body. But in fact it is not, and as presently constituted, never will be. Its governance structure was designed in the immediate Cold War context following WWII, as a way to balance off the interests of the Western powers against the Soviet Union. The Security Council retains much of its early confrontational character; the General Assembly, with equal votes for the US and Nauru, is a joke; and the specialized agencies are pawns for whatever third-world coalition happens to be in charge of them at any given moment. It is ludicrous to think that any part of the current UN structure can play an effective part in addressing complex international issues. At some point, responsible international institutions will need to come into being; actually, the current Internet governance structures would not be a bad model for such. But subjecting the Internet to the ministrations of any part of the present UN would be roughly like turning the management of Apple over to Mrs. Potter&#039;s morning kindergarten class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds delightful in theory, and would be useful were the United Nations anything like a responsible and accountable governing body. But in fact it is not, and as presently constituted, never will be. Its governance structure was designed in the immediate Cold War context following WWII, as a way to balance off the interests of the Western powers against the Soviet Union. The Security Council retains much of its early confrontational character; the General Assembly, with equal votes for the US and Nauru, is a joke; and the specialized agencies are pawns for whatever third-world coalition happens to be in charge of them at any given moment. It is ludicrous to think that any part of the current UN structure can play an effective part in addressing complex international issues. At some point, responsible international institutions will need to come into being; actually, the current Internet governance structures would not be a bad model for such. But subjecting the Internet to the ministrations of any part of the present UN would be roughly like turning the management of Apple over to Mrs. Potter&#8217;s morning kindergarten class.</p>
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		<title>By: Spikosauropod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spikosauropod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the reelection of BO, I think we can assume that the old Internet freedoms will be a thing of the past. He will hand over whatever sovereignty they need to centralize it. That&#039;s just part of his globalist mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the reelection of BO, I think we can assume that the old Internet freedoms will be a thing of the past. He will hand over whatever sovereignty they need to centralize it. That&#8217;s just part of his globalist mindset.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDubious</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDubious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever vision we might have had about the internet 10-15 years ago is long gone.  Sure, there will always be a few leaks here and there (as there have been in the past).  But the combined power of multinational corporations and the governments they own eliminate any hope of freedom or privacy.  The U.S. Inc. monitors and archives most, if not all, of our communications already.  General Petraeus found this out the hard way.  The power and sophistication of such technology is only increasing (as Ray Kurzweil keeps reminding us).  When AI finally gets here it will not be for the benefit of the 99% but will guarantee the permanence of the 1% through perfect surveillance and control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever vision we might have had about the internet 10-15 years ago is long gone.  Sure, there will always be a few leaks here and there (as there have been in the past).  But the combined power of multinational corporations and the governments they own eliminate any hope of freedom or privacy.  The U.S. Inc. monitors and archives most, if not all, of our communications already.  General Petraeus found this out the hard way.  The power and sophistication of such technology is only increasing (as Ray Kurzweil keeps reminding us).  When AI finally gets here it will not be for the benefit of the 99% but will guarantee the permanence of the 1% through perfect surveillance and control.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo -- I was so afraid for a moment SOPA would get passed simply because most people didn&#039;t know about it....people would wake up tomorrow with fewer rights without even realizing it -- and if their is one sure thing about America, is that it&#039;s super-easy to pass something....to remove it? Good luck.

We have more power then we realize, as you said....people need to be more properly informed and into politics and staying on-top of what&#039;s going on -- they can&#039;t just only get into what&#039;s going on for things like a presidential election every 4 years....I&#039;ve tried to join and sign up on so many different online activist groups and causes this past year and it&#039;s insane how many stupid ideas come up that I disagreed with, and the thing is, all of it is unknown unless you actually start paying attention.

That&#039;s not to say that I&#039;m making the government like the big bad guy....I don&#039;t believe in trading liberty for security - we can have both, and we need them to do what is necessary sometimes for our own good....the trick is, making sure they only actually do that; hence, &quot;watching the Watchmen&quot; and making sure they don&#039;t kill us trying to &#039;protect us&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo &#8212; I was so afraid for a moment SOPA would get passed simply because most people didn&#8217;t know about it&#8230;.people would wake up tomorrow with fewer rights without even realizing it &#8212; and if their is one sure thing about America, is that it&#8217;s super-easy to pass something&#8230;.to remove it? Good luck.</p>
<p>We have more power then we realize, as you said&#8230;.people need to be more properly informed and into politics and staying on-top of what&#8217;s going on &#8212; they can&#8217;t just only get into what&#8217;s going on for things like a presidential election every 4 years&#8230;.I&#8217;ve tried to join and sign up on so many different online activist groups and causes this past year and it&#8217;s insane how many stupid ideas come up that I disagreed with, and the thing is, all of it is unknown unless you actually start paying attention.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that I&#8217;m making the government like the big bad guy&#8230;.I don&#8217;t believe in trading liberty for security &#8211; we can have both, and we need them to do what is necessary sometimes for our own good&#8230;.the trick is, making sure they only actually do that; hence, &#8220;watching the Watchmen&#8221; and making sure they don&#8217;t kill us trying to &#8216;protect us&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: eldras</title>
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		<dc:creator>eldras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United Nations has to be empowered as many of the issues we face are as a species. Vast economies of scale are possible by altering total sovereignty of nation states. A problem in the north IS a problem in the south.
A consensual global internet policy will ultimately be good but publishing plans for weapons of doom shouldn&#039;t be permissible. ISPs will get increasing machine intelligence to police their own content. That can be done now by word search and is used by many intelligence services.
The issue of blocking will be resolved by the nature of mobiles where they are only designed to receive via satellite, and as democracy spreads people will engage in politics by electronic voting. That is possible right now if yo guarantee everyone has a mobile.. The UN may bring in a mandate for everyone on earth to have an inalienable weekly income, drawing revenues from company taxes.The UN means MORE democracy not less. Why dont you join it, I did?
A member.
United Nations Association.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United Nations has to be empowered as many of the issues we face are as a species. Vast economies of scale are possible by altering total sovereignty of nation states. A problem in the north IS a problem in the south.<br />
A consensual global internet policy will ultimately be good but publishing plans for weapons of doom shouldn&#8217;t be permissible. ISPs will get increasing machine intelligence to police their own content. That can be done now by word search and is used by many intelligence services.<br />
The issue of blocking will be resolved by the nature of mobiles where they are only designed to receive via satellite, and as democracy spreads people will engage in politics by electronic voting. That is possible right now if yo guarantee everyone has a mobile.. The UN may bring in a mandate for everyone on earth to have an inalienable weekly income, drawing revenues from company taxes.The UN means MORE democracy not less. Why dont you join it, I did?<br />
A member.<br />
United Nations Association.</p>
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		<title>By: Mjr_Dzaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mjr_Dzaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct for the most part. When the Egyptian government tried to block the Student/Arab Spring movement by shutting down access to the internet, innovative youth prevailed and prevailed quite strongly they did! What is sad, is that there are these government/CORPORATE factions that fear the illegally taxed consumer. We have more power than they want us to know we have. And our power over them is much stronger than they would like to admit to themselves...only WE need to understand that we actually HAVE the POWER ourselves. It&#039;s all coming to a head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct for the most part. When the Egyptian government tried to block the Student/Arab Spring movement by shutting down access to the internet, innovative youth prevailed and prevailed quite strongly they did! What is sad, is that there are these government/CORPORATE factions that fear the illegally taxed consumer. We have more power than they want us to know we have. And our power over them is much stronger than they would like to admit to themselves&#8230;only WE need to understand that we actually HAVE the POWER ourselves. It&#8217;s all coming to a head.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thank goodness they can&#039;t....thank goodness the people have a free and open medium like this that isn&#039;t, at least totally, clamped down by government control.

Even so, their will undoubtedly be more things like SOPA that will attempt to silently get passed that will inhibit people&#039;s freedom nonetheless....people must continue to be vigilant and &#039;watch the Watchmen&#039; in order to ensure this doesn&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thank goodness they can&#8217;t&#8230;.thank goodness the people have a free and open medium like this that isn&#8217;t, at least totally, clamped down by government control.</p>
<p>Even so, their will undoubtedly be more things like SOPA that will attempt to silently get passed that will inhibit people&#8217;s freedom nonetheless&#8230;.people must continue to be vigilant and &#8216;watch the Watchmen&#8217; in order to ensure this doesn&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bellinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bellinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Internet was designed so that it cannot be centrally controlled.  Ultimately, attempts to do so will fail.  There are plenty of governments (as stated in the video) who already try to control Internet access.  They may succeed to a degree, but not completely.  It&#039;s like water - block one path and it finds another.

Several months ago, there was a mysterious explosion followed by smoke near the Indiana/Michigan border.  There were many eyewitnesses and plenty of people tried to post pics and videos taken with phones.  Guess what?  You couldn&#039;t find any of them online.  There were written reports of military helicopters and ground vehicles, but no visual evidence online.  How is that possible?  Because the government already does everything in their power to control the Internet as best they can.  They can&#039;t control it completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet was designed so that it cannot be centrally controlled.  Ultimately, attempts to do so will fail.  There are plenty of governments (as stated in the video) who already try to control Internet access.  They may succeed to a degree, but not completely.  It&#8217;s like water &#8211; block one path and it finds another.</p>
<p>Several months ago, there was a mysterious explosion followed by smoke near the Indiana/Michigan border.  There were many eyewitnesses and plenty of people tried to post pics and videos taken with phones.  Guess what?  You couldn&#8217;t find any of them online.  There were written reports of military helicopters and ground vehicles, but no visual evidence online.  How is that possible?  Because the government already does everything in their power to control the Internet as best they can.  They can&#8217;t control it completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Price</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/internet-activists-on-red-alert-ahead-of-united-nations-conference/comment-page-1#comment-53510</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be.</description>
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		<title>By: Vin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, let see, the vid asks how to fix something  (international law) that, by nature, routinely divides humanity even down to infringing individual human rights behind closed doors, so something that promotes transparency, accountiblity and global humanity (internet) can continue to develop.  Wow, is this a trick question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, let see, the vid asks how to fix something  (international law) that, by nature, routinely divides humanity even down to infringing individual human rights behind closed doors, so something that promotes transparency, accountiblity and global humanity (internet) can continue to develop.  Wow, is this a trick question?</p>
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