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		<title>By: Dr.Pratt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how we evolved from the stem cell muscle problem to dog walking. Hmmmm. put the dog on a treadmill and yourself in the pool. (treadmill by the pool) Cant work with 3 dogs though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how we evolved from the stem cell muscle problem to dog walking. Hmmmm. put the dog on a treadmill and yourself in the pool. (treadmill by the pool) Cant work with 3 dogs though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ralph: I know how you spotted me: &quot;Incidentally — am I human or a bot? Remember, if you think I sound human, I am probably a bot, because only bots have the skills necessary to fake it.&quot;

I need to readjust: Eat legs of dog, then they move won&#039;t.Headsho!!1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ralph: I know how you spotted me: &#8220;Incidentally — am I human or a bot? Remember, if you think I sound human, I am probably a bot, because only bots have the skills necessary to fake it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I need to readjust: Eat legs of dog, then they move won&#8217;t.Headsho!!1</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/making-old-muscles-young-again/comment-page-1#comment-35894</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only one thing to you humans: 
&quot;Your cortex just doesn&#039;t impress me, 
so go ahead, try to turing test me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one thing to you humans:<br />
&#8220;Your cortex just doesn&#8217;t impress me,<br />
so go ahead, try to turing test me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: asiwel</title>
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		<dc:creator>asiwel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just read the article itself .. which, honestly was pretty opaque to me, but is still a fascinating and promising study! Mixed in with various inhibitors and other stuff, it appears that the &quot;common drug&quot; referred to above is Tamoxifen. Now this is NOT something I would probably recommend anybody to be taking to avoid muscle aging! This is one of those studies that we all need to &quot;wait a few years&quot; for useful results for people like us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just read the article itself .. which, honestly was pretty opaque to me, but is still a fascinating and promising study! Mixed in with various inhibitors and other stuff, it appears that the &#8220;common drug&#8221; referred to above is Tamoxifen. Now this is NOT something I would probably recommend anybody to be taking to avoid muscle aging! This is one of those studies that we all need to &#8220;wait a few years&#8221; for useful results for people like us!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Gehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Gehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have 3 German Shepherds that won&#039;t mind when they&#039;re not on a leash, the problem is with your approach to dog training.  Dogs will pull until you train them not to pull.  You should be able to walk three German shepherds at your pace, not their pace.  They;&#039;ll behave when you train them.  At present, it sounds like the dogs have trained you .... German shepherds are often overbred and can become frantic(from boredom) if not given enough to do.  Working dogs that are not allowed to work develop odd mental habits. Just like people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have 3 German Shepherds that won&#8217;t mind when they&#8217;re not on a leash, the problem is with your approach to dog training.  Dogs will pull until you train them not to pull.  You should be able to walk three German shepherds at your pace, not their pace.  They;&#8217;ll behave when you train them.  At present, it sounds like the dogs have trained you &#8230;. German shepherds are often overbred and can become frantic(from boredom) if not given enough to do.  Working dogs that are not allowed to work develop odd mental habits. Just like people.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Gehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Gehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get new knees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get new knees.</p>
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		<title>By: Telekinetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Telekinetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must take N-Acetyl Glucosamine because glucosamine is not as bioavailable. Vitamin K2 is important for calcium deposition on bones, as opposed to your arteries, which is also known as &quot;hardening of the arteries&quot;. 
I also suggest  MSM powder, a bioavailable form of sulfur, since many people report relief of joint pain.  There are other natural supplements,that work for joint pain and arthritis. &quot; True CMO&quot; (cetyl myristoleate) will also provide relief from arthritis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must take N-Acetyl Glucosamine because glucosamine is not as bioavailable. Vitamin K2 is important for calcium deposition on bones, as opposed to your arteries, which is also known as &#8220;hardening of the arteries&#8221;.<br />
I also suggest  MSM powder, a bioavailable form of sulfur, since many people report relief of joint pain.  There are other natural supplements,that work for joint pain and arthritis. &#8221; True CMO&#8221; (cetyl myristoleate) will also provide relief from arthritis.</p>
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		<title>By: tim the realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim the realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully this effect can be replicated in humans, maybe the inhibitor is already in widespread use and a study could be done to measure any muscular effects.  I would expect reduced levels of heart attacks if the heart muscle regeneration capabilites were improved  maybe this could put the walker and cane manufacturers out of business and we could all be physicaly fit into old age.

I&#039;m also hopefull that there are competitive athletes trying to gain an edge using FGF2 inhibitors and acting as an uncontrolled stage 1 human trial  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully this effect can be replicated in humans, maybe the inhibitor is already in widespread use and a study could be done to measure any muscular effects.  I would expect reduced levels of heart attacks if the heart muscle regeneration capabilites were improved  maybe this could put the walker and cane manufacturers out of business and we could all be physicaly fit into old age.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also hopefull that there are competitive athletes trying to gain an edge using FGF2 inhibitors and acting as an uncontrolled stage 1 human trial  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X marks the bot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X marks the bot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. X is my kind of guy, I mean, bot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. X is my kind of guy, I mean, bot.</p>
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		<title>By: nfordkrz</title>
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		<dc:creator>nfordkrz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the retirement  community in which I live, a lot of people ride in their golf carts while their dogs walk/run along side.

Re Glucosamine: I&#039;ve taken it for over 10 years and still have bad joints. The reason I don&#039;t stop taking them is that you never know if it might have been worse without them. And they don&#039;t cost much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the retirement  community in which I live, a lot of people ride in their golf carts while their dogs walk/run along side.</p>
<p>Re Glucosamine: I&#8217;ve taken it for over 10 years and still have bad joints. The reason I don&#8217;t stop taking them is that you never know if it might have been worse without them. And they don&#8217;t cost much.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll write that down and look for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll write that down and look for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time I tried to run Franz alongside the bike he saw a squirrel off to the left and cut across my front wheel from the right and threw me over the handlebars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I tried to run Franz alongside the bike he saw a squirrel off to the left and cut across my front wheel from the right and threw me over the handlebars.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chinese solution: Just eat the dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese solution: Just eat the dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: vspyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>vspyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you take them for a walk beside you by riding a bike? This may not be possible if you take three at a time, but one at a time it would work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you take them for a walk beside you by riding a bike? This may not be possible if you take three at a time, but one at a time it would work.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinity Alps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinity Alps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what was that common drug??? I&#039;m getting older by the second! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what was that common drug??? I&#8217;m getting older by the second! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: melajara</title>
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		<dc:creator>melajara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or read the article about remotely controlled cockroaches
...
and connect the dots, LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or read the article about remotely controlled cockroaches<br />
&#8230;<br />
and connect the dots, LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Telekinetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Telekinetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take N- Acetyl Glucosamine everyday plus other antioxidants like astaxanthin. I&#039;m 57 and I can still outwalk your dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take N- Acetyl Glucosamine everyday plus other antioxidants like astaxanthin. I&#8217;m 57 and I can still outwalk your dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Marin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hire a dog-walker!

... but then you will have to worry who will pay his meals when robots can walk your dogs for him... hmmm I guess your knees will keep hurting till the singularity... or at least until solar cell powered nano bots can excrete carbon nano stuff from the air into your joints... tough luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hire a dog-walker!</p>
<p>&#8230; but then you will have to worry who will pay his meals when robots can walk your dogs for him&#8230; hmmm I guess your knees will keep hurting till the singularity&#8230; or at least until solar cell powered nano bots can excrete carbon nano stuff from the air into your joints&#8230; tough luck.</p>
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		<title>By: gaoptimize</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaoptimize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  This raises an obvious question: Jack LaLanne and his kind.  It seems to me his exercise was causing the repeated call-up of these muscle stem cells, and if there was a limited pool, his muscles would have wasted at a higher rate than a normal person.  But the exact opposite was the case.  I don&#039;t buy that the pool of stem cells is limited.  There is clearly much more study that needs to be done here, and it is about time given the exploding babyboomer population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  This raises an obvious question: Jack LaLanne and his kind.  It seems to me his exercise was causing the repeated call-up of these muscle stem cells, and if there was a limited pool, his muscles would have wasted at a higher rate than a normal person.  But the exact opposite was the case.  I don&#8217;t buy that the pool of stem cells is limited.  There is clearly much more study that needs to be done here, and it is about time given the exploding babyboomer population.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just hope these researchers get the funding to jump on this like a duck on a June bug.  I&#039;ve got three German shepherds who want a half-hour walk ever 90 minutes and my knees hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just hope these researchers get the funding to jump on this like a duck on a June bug.  I&#8217;ve got three German shepherds who want a half-hour walk ever 90 minutes and my knees hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: melajara</title>
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		<dc:creator>melajara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We do not yet know how or why levels of the protein FGF2 increase with age, triggering stem cells to be activated when they are not needed.,” said Kieran Jones, co-author of the study from King’s. ”This is something that needs to be explored.

Indeed, the path of causal relations has to be followed up and up till one primary cause is found. 

Then, going down again, we&#039;ll see that curing the primary defect should (hopefully) cure other ailments seemingly unrelated to what triggered the research, here muscle depletion. 

But it could very well have unexpected  bad effects too like e.g. cancer induction. Such is the complexity and beauty of biology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We do not yet know how or why levels of the protein FGF2 increase with age, triggering stem cells to be activated when they are not needed.,” said Kieran Jones, co-author of the study from King’s. ”This is something that needs to be explored.</p>
<p>Indeed, the path of causal relations has to be followed up and up till one primary cause is found. </p>
<p>Then, going down again, we&#8217;ll see that curing the primary defect should (hopefully) cure other ailments seemingly unrelated to what triggered the research, here muscle depletion. </p>
<p>But it could very well have unexpected  bad effects too like e.g. cancer induction. Such is the complexity and beauty of biology.</p>
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