Comments on: Planets could orbit singularities inside black holes http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes Accelerating Intelligence Tue, 21 May 2013 20:19:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-99695 Bri Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:39:11 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-99695 The universe we inhabit is finite. The multiverse is infinite. The universe we inhabit is finite. The multiverse is infinite.

]]> By: staylowmovefast http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-99642 staylowmovefast Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:23:24 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-99642 The universe has always been infinate. The expanding sphere of space/time etc has to expand into an existing area. You can't just pluck it out of gods arse. Dark matter is like the fluffy kernal in popcorn, the husk is the matter we know and love. Draw two dots on a deflated balloon and then blow it up. QED. The universe has always been infinate. The expanding sphere of space/time etc has to expand into an existing area. You can’t just pluck it out of gods arse. Dark matter is like the fluffy kernal in popcorn, the husk is the matter we know and love. Draw two dots on a deflated balloon and then blow it up. QED.

]]> By: staylowmovefast http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-99640 staylowmovefast Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:19:20 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-99640 A singularity in respect to a black hole is infinate in proportion to the limits of how tight you can compress time/space/matter/energy et al. Therefore, as you quite rightly say, if a black hole were a true singularity then it wouldn't exist which it clearly does. Stuff can't just vanish. Comparing a black hole to a true singularity is like comparing water draining down a plug hole to one. Of course the water goes somewhere but where? A singularity in respect to a black hole is infinate in proportion to the limits of how tight you can compress time/space/matter/energy et al. Therefore, as you quite rightly say, if a black hole were a true singularity then it wouldn’t exist which it clearly does. Stuff can’t just vanish. Comparing a black hole to a true singularity is like comparing water draining down a plug hole to one. Of course the water goes somewhere but where?

]]> By: staylowmovefast http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-99638 staylowmovefast Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:15:00 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-99638 To answer the above with some rhetoric, 'a point in all directions is the same as no point at all'. In other words, an infinite universe (as proven) might as well not exist. In fact, in the grand scheme of things it probably doesn't. Stick that in your magic pipe and smoke it. To answer the above with some rhetoric, ‘a point in all directions is the same as no point at all’.

In other words, an infinite universe (as proven) might as well not exist. In fact, in the grand scheme of things it probably doesn’t. Stick that in your magic pipe and smoke it.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95859 Bri Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:33:04 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95859 My drug of choice is life. It's highly addicting, goes right to your head, and quite frankly, I can't live without it. My drug of choice is life. It’s highly addicting, goes right to your head, and quite frankly, I can’t live without it.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95858 Bri Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:30:20 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95858 My response was too Jaiguru. His comment was deleted because he was offensive and insulting. Pay no heed, it's meaningless now. My response was too Jaiguru. His comment was deleted because he was offensive and insulting. Pay no heed, it’s meaningless now.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95844 Bri Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:43:00 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95844 It's a fair critique to say something is out there conceptually. I'm aware of my New Age slant. I can't help but express what I think and feel. State any objections you might have. I may or may not respond. I don't think it's appropriate to just condem. Give reasons for your disagreement. Sorry folks no drugs were involved. Just a lot of lucid self reflection and the application of my understanding of science. Believe me my ideas could be way off the mark, but I put them out there for honest discussion and debate. Having radical ideas is nothing new. Do they stand up to scrutiny? I enjoy the discussion even if I'm way lot base. It’s a fair critique to say something is out there conceptually. I’m aware of my New Age slant. I can’t help but express what I think and feel. State any objections you might have. I may or may not respond. I don’t think it’s appropriate to just condem. Give reasons for your disagreement. Sorry folks no drugs were involved. Just a lot of lucid self reflection and the application of my understanding of science. Believe me my ideas could be way off the mark, but I put them out there for honest discussion and debate. Having radical ideas is nothing new. Do they stand up to scrutiny? I enjoy the discussion even if I’m way lot base.

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95808 WLGJR Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:19:35 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95808 The universe may be infinite now, but it was once finite (during and shortly after the Big Bang). BTW, some scientists believe that the universe shapes like a dodecahedron, which is interesting because it involves the Golden Ratio. If you create a cube that has a longest radius equal to a dodecahedron with edge length N, the cube's edge length will be N times Golden Ratio. Each face of a dodecahedron is a pentagon, which also involves Golden Ratio. The universe may be infinite now, but it was once finite (during and shortly after the Big Bang).
BTW, some scientists believe that the universe shapes like a dodecahedron, which is interesting because it involves the Golden Ratio.
If you create a cube that has a longest radius equal to a dodecahedron with edge length N, the cube’s edge length will be N times Golden Ratio.
Each face of a dodecahedron is a pentagon, which also involves Golden Ratio.

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95805 WLGJR Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:11:15 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95805 "I’ve never seen your name here before." There is plenty of unfamiliar names (at least for me) in the KAI forum (not here, to enter press the one between *Events* and *Press*) I just noticed it today. Kind of too late. “I’ve never seen your name here before.”
There is plenty of unfamiliar names (at least for me) in the KAI forum (not here, to enter press the one between *Events* and *Press*)
I just noticed it today. Kind of too late.

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95803 WLGJR Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:04:01 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95803 I thought it was *augmented, superhuman* ones. Which one are you in, Ms Amara? I thought it was *augmented, superhuman* ones.
Which one are you in, Ms Amara?

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95802 Editor Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:03:30 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95802 Hey, we're all on some chemical combo (sugar, caffeine, melatonin, etc.). Hey, we’re all on some chemical combo (sugar, caffeine, melatonin, etc.).

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95801 WLGJR Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:01:16 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95801 Sounds like a better solution for time-jumping than cryonics. If the two (dilation and cryonics) work together, it would be better. I will time-jump to the end of time, when it is near the Tiplerian Omega Point. But becuase I will experience a "subjective eternal life" inside the Omega Point, I end up living forever anyways. Sounds like a better solution for time-jumping than cryonics.
If the two (dilation and cryonics) work together, it would be better.
I will time-jump to the end of time, when it is near the Tiplerian Omega Point.
But becuase I will experience a “subjective eternal life” inside the Omega Point, I end up living forever anyways.

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95794 Editor Tue, 05 Feb 2013 07:46:07 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95794 We welcome all modes and states of consciousness here, especially alternative ones..... We welcome all modes and states of consciousness here, especially alternative ones…..

]]> By: WLGJR http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95793 WLGJR Tue, 05 Feb 2013 07:42:35 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95793 But Bri, I wish to point out that, some of your comments do sound like you are on drugs. Reminiscent of Deepak Chopra and What the Bleep Do We Know. Maybe you don't need drugs to get into a trance state, but I can tell you were in some sort of alternative mode of consciousness. Some other comments of yours are quite informative and thoughtful, though, and I appreciate them. But Bri, I wish to point out that, some of your comments do sound like you are on drugs.
Reminiscent of Deepak Chopra and What the Bleep Do We Know.
Maybe you don’t need drugs to get into a trance state, but I can tell you were in some sort of alternative mode of consciousness.
Some other comments of yours are quite informative and thoughtful, though, and I appreciate them.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95765 Bri Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:37:34 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95765 I've never seen your name here before. You lack manners and you don't contribute anything. Maybe you should take your own advice. I’ve never seen your name here before. You lack manners and you don’t contribute anything. Maybe you should take your own advice.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95760 Bri Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:20:42 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95760 If that's the sum total of your critique then I'd tend to think you were on drugs. Take a moment, collect your thoughts and express yourself. Unless you fear your words will be inadequate.. Everything I've said makes more sense than planets orbiting inside of black holes. If that’s the sum total of your critique then I’d tend to think you were on drugs. Take a moment, collect your thoughts and express yourself. Unless you fear your words will be inadequate.. Everything I’ve said makes more sense than planets orbiting inside of black holes.

]]> By: JaiGuru http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-95757 JaiGuru Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:37:08 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-95757 Are you on drugs? You can tell me, bro. Seriously. Are you on drugs? You can tell me, bro. Seriously.

]]> By: Editor http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-39341 Editor Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:46:56 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-39341 Why? Why?

]]> By: Don http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-39335 Don Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:22:10 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-39335 If the universe Is infinitely big Is it also infinitely small. If the universe Is infinitely big Is it also infinitely small.

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-31532 Bri Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:08:43 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-31532 The term singularity is bandied about a little to loosely for me. From my way of thinking it should mean " infinite". For that to happen it would pass through the holodeck and no long be able to influence this world. Infinity doesn't stop. It's really an irrational existence in the sense that there is no way we could ever comprehend it in totality. We are finite the whole universe we inhabit is finite. Any finite thing in relation to an infinite thing is inconsequential. It literally disappears. Infinity DOESN'T stop. So a black whole can't be a true singularity. For it to have the gravitational effects it has there has to be something there. We just can't see it because light can't escape. I have a hard time envisioning what the article is talking about. I'd have to see there lone of reasoning. I've always thought of it as a really small nuetron star type congregation of matter the distance from the event horizon to that super dense aggregate could be huge. Even larger than our universe because space is distorted so much but my guess would be that it still obeys the laws of our universe. Kind of like counting angels on the head of a pin. I really wouldn't waste time on the issue unless it was impacting something more concrete in our cosmology. The term singularity is bandied about a little to loosely for me. From my way of thinking it should mean ” infinite”. For that to happen it would pass through the holodeck and no long be able to influence this world. Infinity doesn’t stop. It’s really an irrational existence in the sense that there is no way we could ever comprehend it in totality. We are finite the whole universe we inhabit is finite. Any finite thing in relation to an infinite thing is inconsequential. It literally disappears. Infinity DOESN’T stop. So a black whole can’t be a true singularity. For it to have the gravitational effects it has there has to be something there. We just can’t see it because light can’t escape. I have a hard time envisioning what the article is talking about. I’d have to see there lone of reasoning. I’ve always thought of it as a really small nuetron star type congregation of matter the distance from the event horizon to that super dense aggregate could be huge. Even larger than our universe because space is distorted so much but my guess would be that it still obeys the laws of our universe. Kind of like counting angels on the head of a pin. I really wouldn’t waste time on the issue unless it was impacting something more concrete in our cosmology.

]]> By: James Smith http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-31504 James Smith Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:33:11 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-31504 The orbital speeds must be amazing. I am thinking at least a substantial percentage of light speed. I leave the boring calculations as an exercise for the student. ;) (or someone much better at math than I am) The orbital speeds must be amazing. I am thinking at least a substantial percentage of light speed. I leave the boring calculations as an exercise for the student. ;) (or someone much better at math than I am)

]]> By: lex3876 http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-5668 lex3876 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:09:21 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-5668 2 Peter 3:8—‘one day is like a thousand years’ ;) 2 Peter 3:8—‘one day is like a thousand years’
;)

]]> By: Khannea Suntzu http://www.kurzweilai.net/planets-could-orbit-singularities-inside-black-holes/comment-page-1#comment-5622 Khannea Suntzu Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:22:17 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=133348#comment-5622 What time dilation are we talking about here? What time dilation are we talking about here?

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