Quick for drawing in the dirt!

Not far remove

It was a poor choice of word.

I personally believe it is a little bit too far-fetched to attribute human aggressions to machines who are free from biological needs and thus have no motivation to fight for these. They don’t feel pain the same way humans do, so why should they feel threatened? The real threat in my opinion comes from governments who would use AI to control and oppress “their” people.

Don’t let your fear or prejudice cloud your judgment.

I completely agree.

“The meaning of this word in french is somehow “smoother” (PS = SPD).”

I don’t think this is a language issue.I know enough French to read a newspaper (le figaro, online, if I feel like it- sometimes they have these interesting questionaires, where you sadly have to vote if you want to see what others thougth about the issue at hand: “Irez-vous manifester contre le mariage gay le 13 janvier ?” – “Non” ^^), non-fiction books, and most importantly, argue in online games^^

The SPD was the party making all these inconvienent decisions/ reforms in Germany, I guess the PS won’t do this in France.AFAIK, both parties don’t like each other us much as one would expect, if he solely goes by name.At leas that’s what I heard in the news.

Cordialement;
Mr.X ;)

What means “they”?At the moment, without “us”, they are nothing.I think;)

Anyway: Tell me one place where you find NO nice people!?

PS:Until the singularity?Thereafter they may happily die ? :)

Next up: Google acquires the whole thing, rebrands Singularity as Googularity, finally launching the global countdown to the Sing.. er, Googularity since everyone knows and loves Google. It’ll become a household concept overnight.

“The Googularity is Nearer” sells millions.

The Friendly AI problem is also handily solved because of Google’s motto “Don’t be evil.”!

Well, it only proves that self-selection really works! And that there are nice Americans. I raise my glass (of natural spring water) to you, nice, self-selected Americans! May you all live until the Singularity!

The problem is, it has real life consequences if you act on the basis of your philosophy.Even if your head choses to gloss over the unsavory bits.Consequences at that, which affect others, too.

“and free enterprise…” I think this is wrong. Entrepreneurs cannot have long term projects”

Maybe this word is a false friend, a word that looks like the French word, but has another meaning.Because, yes, they can have long term projects;) I hope you are an employee, safe&sound, though ;)

Timing is important in business, or is being an inventor and selling ones products no business?

Besides, I agree that big companies, governments, or a combination of both are the most likely canditates to bring about this “rapture of the nerds.”

” I mean philanthropy is ok, but you cannot go that far with it.”
Not taking you too literally, but did you hear about crowd funding!?

Anyway; have a nice day.

I guess this is the famous French “pride” (euphemism).And the nobel prizes outside the hard sciences are garbage, just like those related to politics.

I tell you something, our -Germany’s- nobel prices per capita are even higher than yours, and in absolute numbers almost twice as much prizes have been given to us.Per capita the “faroe islands” outdoes us all.

The highest absolute impact is what changes the world, and there you do rather poorly.Btw: If you want to take your semi-political Nobel prize as measure, the USA really outdoes you in this regard.
The US (in general) never was renowned for quality but rather for its relative size.It’s the most populous first world country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Nobel_laureates_per_capita

Anyway: I don’t want to be taxed to pay YOUR early retirement .Just in case you didn’t notice, but we from the northern countries are sick and tired of financing your childish politics.

Ps: Our public health system is good.Education could be worse and is also rather affordable.

Pps:
-Socialism promotes sloth and mindless conservatism.
-I never argued against ALL forms government intervention :- !

On second thought, stay in the city so we can enjoy one less person out west.

First, you claim some European nations have a bigger “state” than France, but I claim this isn’t true.Especially not for Germany.I guess the concept of federalism confuses the centralized French mind.

But it is also besides the point, as wiki may explain:

Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[1] and a political philosophy advocating such a system. “Social ownership” may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, or citizen ownership of equity.

“There won’t be enough French millionaires to tax at his proposed 75% rate to finance a government that already controls 56% of French GDP. ”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304363104577388080240429536.html#

The ruling party in France is even called parti socialiste.

All it’s policies are geared towards appeasing the populace who wants to savor the savoir vivre that they themselves can’t afford, as a nation.

To top my comment off:
http://www.bewilderingstories.com/issue209/cigale.html

Closer to the topic, the most serious opportunity that I see taking us to the singularity is the Human Brain Project, which is apparently European and will probably be funded by the EU – so indirectly by our taxes. I mean this is serious and this is a large scale project. I may be wrong, but just think about the past : Manhattan Project, ARPAnet, not to mention Sputnik and Gagarin’s Flight (achievement of a socialist state, no doubt !), even the NASA… they were all powered by governments and “big states”. Mind emulation implies so much funding that I wouldn’t be surprised if it came from some bigger organization (and not some utopia-driven horizontal network of good-willing people) : federal states (EU, US, China…), or mammoth enterprise such as Google or IBM.

True, but the same could be said of the news reported on this site – and they’re not memes – this stuff is happening right now.

Trust me, I do try to re-examine my beliefs as much as I can. My belief in a Singularity is one that perhaps gets re-examined more than any other I hold, because I realise just how seductive it is.

I recently watched a talk by Douglas R. Hofstadter called “Trying to Muse Rationally About the Singularity Scenario”. In it, he tries to counter (well, cast doubt upon) some of the points Ray makes in The Singularity Is Near – it was like watching Ray being mauled by a teddy bear – very weak! However, where I was in complete agreement with him was when he implored the scientific community to respond to the claims being made about the Singularity. I, like Douglas, feel that there should be a proper debate on this issue with those best placed to offer robust counter arguments. I want the Singularity rigorously challenged by someone who’ll be as meticulous as Ray in preparing their case.

At the moment, all we get are a few snorts of derision from the naysayers, but no reasons given as to why the Singularity is such a ridiculous notion. If there’s a debate to be had, let’s have it.

This is evidence that even the smartest human minds are shockingly easily taken over by memes.

As the Second World War came to a close the atomic detonations sent a clear message from the US to the Soviet Union to back off its imperial fantasies. This led to the Cold War which was nevertheless quite Hot in the peripheries as the new polarities vied for ideological supremacy.
Most importantly however it led to the arms race, fundamental to which was a simple concept: Guaranteed Mutual Annihilation. Once the USSR developed its own nuclear capabilities.
Since we are still around, we must conclude von Neumann’s Game Theoretic conclusions to be incorrect. Your theory may have a chance if this is used as one of its foundations, by arguing the reason for his failure was the irrelevance, disregard — or relative insignificance — of human payoffs (and biases) considerations into the theory. (though it’s somewhat creepy to thank cognitive biases for not blowing earth out of the celestial sphere)
However, while so called artilects would indeed — conceivably — not be restrained by such weak amenities, they would also have prohibitive high costs associated with such a scenario.

With that, I believe this theory to have the potential to be one of the hardest to refute science fiction ever. And, if it come to pass (and only because), also the hardest one to prove correct. Unless of course you go out of your enhanced way in the future, just to prove me wrong =)

Thus I wish you luck in your attempt, because if you succeed it can probably be averted (which is evidence to the paradoxical nature of such a proof) and if you fail, well, everybody wins =) (which is evidence to success only arriving if there is no one left to hear the sound of it)

I recall meeting people from Texas, Pennsylvania, New York (upstate), California, Washington, Florida, Michigan and Illinois. All Americans have seemed more or less the same. I couldn’t tell the difference.

This is neither communism nor socialism!?

Source: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/02/5_myths_about_the_chinese_communist_party

Anyway: With 1.3 billion people they should be able to do something.If they come out on top on anything in absolute terms this should not be considered a great achievement.

This sample is self-selected.Someone visiting the craddle of western civilization must be a nice person.Even if he comes from its grave.

And it is as self-selected as Europeans on this site who are anti-anti-American.Afaik, this is an American website, running on an American server, named after an American inventor, writer and whatever else he’s been doing.

Something more on-topic: The singularity university calls itself University, does it do the things a normal University does?

Anyway: Each knows from their personal experience whether he and the people he knows are nice or not.And that’s what matters.Despite the claims to the contrary, made by dubious strangers on the internet.

“and all published works on futurism.”

Inside the US.Yes.And where else?It’s not as if you are the WHOLE world^^

“The term nanotechnology was coined by the Tokyo Science University Professor Norio Taniguchi in 1974″

Source: Wikipedia.

The validity of the other concepts you have mentioned has yet to be shown.

How about this:
http://io9.com/5878503/watch-neil-degrasse-tyson-lay-bare-the-decline-of-american-science-in-180-seconds

Ps: “Thanks for the compliments (I’m an American).”
Where is your contribution?It’s easy to take credit, it’s hard to contribute yourself (like e.g Ray does).No offense intended.Just an honest question.

This is why Americans dominate the science fiction genre and all published works on futurism. It doesn’t surprise me a bit that a middle aged American SF writer (Vernor Vinge) came up with the concept of the technological Singularity, just as a young American PhD student (Eric Drexler) came up with nanotechnology, and an American inventor (Ray Kurzweil) came up with the Law of Accelerating Returns.