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	<title>Comments on: Squirrel and bird deception techniques inspire military-robot design</title>
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		<title>By: asiwel</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/squirrel-and-bird-deception-techniques-inspire-military-robot-design/comment-page-1#comment-65443</link>
		<dc:creator>asiwel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deception is a two-way street. A clever robot might be able to deceive. But an even cleverer robot who understand the techniques of deception might be able to detect and contravene such efforts. If we want to talk about war and gaming, deception is simply a form of strategy - one we humans are very familiar with and hence study. Is pigeons studied catfish strategy, they would not so often become catfishfood. Since we recognize the possibly for deception, self-deception, and simply faulty understanding does exist in this universe and that there often are a wide variety of reasons (many ethical) for this, we would expect intelligent robots that we design to do the same, perhaps to a higher degree than we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deception is a two-way street. A clever robot might be able to deceive. But an even cleverer robot who understand the techniques of deception might be able to detect and contravene such efforts. If we want to talk about war and gaming, deception is simply a form of strategy &#8211; one we humans are very familiar with and hence study. Is pigeons studied catfish strategy, they would not so often become catfishfood. Since we recognize the possibly for deception, self-deception, and simply faulty understanding does exist in this universe and that there often are a wide variety of reasons (many ethical) for this, we would expect intelligent robots that we design to do the same, perhaps to a higher degree than we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/squirrel-and-bird-deception-techniques-inspire-military-robot-design/comment-page-1#comment-63526</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PirateRo:

Your primitive attack against my personality can be forgiven, for its force and aim hit as accurately as your arguments, which missed the point entirely.

I wasn&#039;t talking about the science, but the application thereof. Presuming you to be smart enough to have understood this:

&quot;And if one day, I decide to change who and what I am and I look back on that process and discover I like hand better than the one I was originally dealt, then I’ll play those cards&quot;
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You want to try being a military robot!?Ok, Robobeard.

&quot;Seriously, go back to living in the forest. Did you forget where? Right back under that rock you crawled out of.&quot;

Maybe you should do something about your funny smell, you smell as old as your insult. 

May my robot-rock reign onto your baloony-head, and make all the hot air and misty fog clouding thy judgement go away.

Have a nice day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PirateRo:</p>
<p>Your primitive attack against my personality can be forgiven, for its force and aim hit as accurately as your arguments, which missed the point entirely.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about the science, but the application thereof. Presuming you to be smart enough to have understood this:</p>
<p>&#8220;And if one day, I decide to change who and what I am and I look back on that process and discover I like hand better than the one I was originally dealt, then I’ll play those cards&#8221;<br />
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You want to try being a military robot!?Ok, Robobeard.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seriously, go back to living in the forest. Did you forget where? Right back under that rock you crawled out of.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe you should do something about your funny smell, you smell as old as your insult. </p>
<p>May my robot-rock reign onto your baloony-head, and make all the hot air and misty fog clouding thy judgement go away.</p>
<p>Have a nice day</p>
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		<title>By: PirateRo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PirateRo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met Asimov at various Trek conventions. He was quite a character with an incisive mind that could just cut right through to the issue at hand. 

I sure do miss him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met Asimov at various Trek conventions. He was quite a character with an incisive mind that could just cut right through to the issue at hand. </p>
<p>I sure do miss him.</p>
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		<title>By: PirateRo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PirateRo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever. 

You know, it might also be that we use technology in an exploration of ourselves and that since part of us involves violence, deception and other things, then it becomes only natural to examine these. 

More importantly, though, your entire argument requires that we duck around corners and hide in ignorance and fear. I don&#039;t think I will do that. 

Instead, I&#039;ll be happy enough to get out there and see what it&#039;s all about, to learn and change in the process of discovering who I am and what mankind is about. Our humanity demands this of us and no less. 

And if one day, I decide to change who and what I am and I look back on that process and discover I like hand better than the one I was originally dealt, then I&#039;ll play those cards. If I don&#039;t, I&#039;ll go through another process of change until I find something appealing. 

But you know what I won&#039;t do? I won&#039;t live my life to the tune of acceptance by some clod who prefers to wallow in fear and then reign judgmental to those with the courage to move ahead. 

Seriously, go back to living in the forest. Did you forget where? Right back under that rock you crawled out of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever. </p>
<p>You know, it might also be that we use technology in an exploration of ourselves and that since part of us involves violence, deception and other things, then it becomes only natural to examine these. </p>
<p>More importantly, though, your entire argument requires that we duck around corners and hide in ignorance and fear. I don&#8217;t think I will do that. </p>
<p>Instead, I&#8217;ll be happy enough to get out there and see what it&#8217;s all about, to learn and change in the process of discovering who I am and what mankind is about. Our humanity demands this of us and no less. </p>
<p>And if one day, I decide to change who and what I am and I look back on that process and discover I like hand better than the one I was originally dealt, then I&#8217;ll play those cards. If I don&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll go through another process of change until I find something appealing. </p>
<p>But you know what I won&#8217;t do? I won&#8217;t live my life to the tune of acceptance by some clod who prefers to wallow in fear and then reign judgmental to those with the courage to move ahead. </p>
<p>Seriously, go back to living in the forest. Did you forget where? Right back under that rock you crawled out of.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.X</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/squirrel-and-bird-deception-techniques-inspire-military-robot-design/comment-page-1#comment-62846</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me it has become apparent -swiftly- that this site is a place of those who are friends of war, yet are too cowardly to fight it themselves, let alone man against man.

Here they dwell, marvelling at the conception of heinous machine-works, which allow their nation to harass its weaker prey, without punishment or cost in life  (befitting their decadent, craven ways).

Unwittingly, these people adore what might bring future doom on them themselves -if or hopefully when-fortunes favor passes 
to another place or race (race-robots ).

All this can bring great amusement to the neutral observer, especially when such a people explodes yet again in one of its ridiculous (bigotted) outbursts of moral indignation, directed at the lesser (in extent and decadence) doings of others.

Today it says everywhere: Behold the wrath of the Childpeople, who can undo you with their joysticks, without even leaving their house, who could even be too fat to move for long.

The tragedy of war and of violence has once again become a bloody game, to be played by immature, self-righteous minds.

Ps: This nature-copying thing has become a cliché.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it has become apparent -swiftly- that this site is a place of those who are friends of war, yet are too cowardly to fight it themselves, let alone man against man.</p>
<p>Here they dwell, marvelling at the conception of heinous machine-works, which allow their nation to harass its weaker prey, without punishment or cost in life  (befitting their decadent, craven ways).</p>
<p>Unwittingly, these people adore what might bring future doom on them themselves -if or hopefully when-fortunes favor passes<br />
to another place or race (race-robots ).</p>
<p>All this can bring great amusement to the neutral observer, especially when such a people explodes yet again in one of its ridiculous (bigotted) outbursts of moral indignation, directed at the lesser (in extent and decadence) doings of others.</p>
<p>Today it says everywhere: Behold the wrath of the Childpeople, who can undo you with their joysticks, without even leaving their house, who could even be too fat to move for long.</p>
<p>The tragedy of war and of violence has once again become a bloody game, to be played by immature, self-righteous minds.</p>
<p>Ps: This nature-copying thing has become a cliché.</p>
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		<title>By: Arctic Poppy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arctic Poppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isaac was a true futurist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isaac was a true futurist.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorden Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gorden Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A long time ago, Isaac Asimov wrote a story about a robot liar.  It turned out that the robot was only trying to keep from hurting people&#039;s feelings, but it sure got Susan Calvin mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A long time ago, Isaac Asimov wrote a story about a robot liar.  It turned out that the robot was only trying to keep from hurting people&#8217;s feelings, but it sure got Susan Calvin mad.</p>
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