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		<title>By: Thrillhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrillhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 05:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Steven Pinker shows that tribal societies saw higher mortality rates by percentage of population than our own.

Sorry, meant higher HOMICIDE rates.</description>
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<p>Sorry, meant higher HOMICIDE rates.</p>
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		<title>By: asiwel</title>
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		<dc:creator>asiwel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 05:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking about this study, and the recently reported one about monitoring neuron activity in zebrafish larvae in real time, reminds me that we have complete brain models for the roundworm (with its 302 neurons and 5000+ synapses). it would be an interesting validation study to use this or similar monitoring systems to provide inputs observed from the living organism in real time to the artificial neuron model and then &quot;watch&quot; them both run in parallel ... to see if the &quot;real&quot; neuronal behaviors and outputs actually mirror the processes modeled and hence predicted by the computer. This could be observed over an extended period of time while the worm did all sorts of &quot;wormlike&quot; things. If the model matched the reality, one would have to say that the computer fully models the real worm ... is a worm, in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about this study, and the recently reported one about monitoring neuron activity in zebrafish larvae in real time, reminds me that we have complete brain models for the roundworm (with its 302 neurons and 5000+ synapses). it would be an interesting validation study to use this or similar monitoring systems to provide inputs observed from the living organism in real time to the artificial neuron model and then &#8220;watch&#8221; them both run in parallel &#8230; to see if the &#8220;real&#8221; neuronal behaviors and outputs actually mirror the processes modeled and hence predicted by the computer. This could be observed over an extended period of time while the worm did all sorts of &#8220;wormlike&#8221; things. If the model matched the reality, one would have to say that the computer fully models the real worm &#8230; is a worm, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrillhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-brain-computer-interface-goes-wireless/comment-page-1#comment-107593</link>
		<dc:creator>Thrillhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Ask yourself this, how much of the tremendous strides in computing power have been used for bettering mankind? Weaponry and profit (gaming &amp; media industries) have been the primary users and motivators of progress, not medicine nor academic research.

Your concerns are valid and useful, because without them we really would be prone to these sorts of problems, but I would argue that progress in computation (and progress generally) *has* been beneficial to people, and we shouldn&#039;t be so quick to shy away from its latest offerings just because we mistrust its motives.

Think about trying to use a computer and internet connection from a few years, decades, or centuries back.  Medical technologies, safety measures, diet, whatever: if you had cut yourself off from the &quot;weaponry and profit&quot; motivated increases in these areas at some point in the past, do you think you&#039;d be better off or worse off than you are now?

I would argue that improvements in weaponry directly benefit the average person.  The quickest way to see this is to consider that a weak weapon in the hands of someone hostile to you is just as strong as it needs to be - if you don&#039;t have a better one to defend against it.  A highly motivated group with swords can cause a lot of damage if their victims are also only armed with swords, and indeed, Steven Pinker shows that tribal societies saw higher mortality rates by percentage of population than our own.  

It seems to me that more and more complex weapons require more and more stable and complex societies for their manufacture: for instance, if I&#039;m the current strongman in charge of my band of subjects, I can only beat the other strongman and *his* band of subjects by getting more complex weapons, and I can only get more complex weapons by allowing a more complex society to flourish under me (to smelt the ore, get the bindings for the hilts, design the programs for the launch codes, etc), which ends up benefiting my underlings, because now they actually live in a structured society with rules instead of just under fear of my killing them if they don&#039;t follow my whims.  Consider what happens if a tribal chieftain kills his rebellious second-in-command: nothing, because the second-in-command was, definitionally, the strongest rivalling force in the tribe.  Now consider what happens if Barack Obama kills some leading general: everybody has far more leverage to push back against that kind of abuse of power by one person.

Seems to me that &quot;better weapons” tend to be highly correlated with “better civilisations”, both in terms of power and in terms of the well-being of their inhabitants.  You can chicken-egg the argument in circles, asking if weapons are the driving force behind progress or vice versa, but it seems to me that the trend is a good thing either way (a &quot;virtuous spiral&quot;?).  A world where everybody only has swords (or rocks, or fists) is a world where the strong rule, for a few years, destroying and taking whatever they want until someone stronger takes over from them: nothing can ever change or improve.  No matter how cynical you are about the motives of today&#039;s leaders, it seems to me that those same people could make your life worse at every lower stage of technological development.  

Here&#039;s a Matt Ridley talk that&#039;s almost related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLHh9E5ilZ4

And &quot;profit&quot; may sound like a callous motivation, but it&#039;s also an honest one: could the &quot;charity&quot; of a feudal empire, where the emperor has all the swords and soldiers, really have brought us the internet, cars, industrial civilisation, etc?  Or the &quot;charity&quot; of the tribal chief?  Of course, I suppose if you *want* to live in a hunter-gatherer society you can do without &quot;profit&quot;, but in that case, the only valid reason I can see for using tools more advanced than stone hand-axes would be to righteously knock such tools out of the hands of others, and then drop those tools yourself when the task of limiting others was completed, and thereafter only ever pick up a tool more advanced than a stone hand-axe to keep that level of tool out of the hands of others, and so on, indefinitely.  A sort of self-hamstringing arms-race-in-reverse, a perpetual stagnation machine, fundamentally hostile to all curiosity and growth.  Derrick Jensen seems to me to be the best advocate for this POV, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s what you had in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Ask yourself this, how much of the tremendous strides in computing power have been used for bettering mankind? Weaponry and profit (gaming &amp; media industries) have been the primary users and motivators of progress, not medicine nor academic research.</p>
<p>Your concerns are valid and useful, because without them we really would be prone to these sorts of problems, but I would argue that progress in computation (and progress generally) *has* been beneficial to people, and we shouldn&#8217;t be so quick to shy away from its latest offerings just because we mistrust its motives.</p>
<p>Think about trying to use a computer and internet connection from a few years, decades, or centuries back.  Medical technologies, safety measures, diet, whatever: if you had cut yourself off from the &#8220;weaponry and profit&#8221; motivated increases in these areas at some point in the past, do you think you&#8217;d be better off or worse off than you are now?</p>
<p>I would argue that improvements in weaponry directly benefit the average person.  The quickest way to see this is to consider that a weak weapon in the hands of someone hostile to you is just as strong as it needs to be &#8211; if you don&#8217;t have a better one to defend against it.  A highly motivated group with swords can cause a lot of damage if their victims are also only armed with swords, and indeed, Steven Pinker shows that tribal societies saw higher mortality rates by percentage of population than our own.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that more and more complex weapons require more and more stable and complex societies for their manufacture: for instance, if I&#8217;m the current strongman in charge of my band of subjects, I can only beat the other strongman and *his* band of subjects by getting more complex weapons, and I can only get more complex weapons by allowing a more complex society to flourish under me (to smelt the ore, get the bindings for the hilts, design the programs for the launch codes, etc), which ends up benefiting my underlings, because now they actually live in a structured society with rules instead of just under fear of my killing them if they don&#8217;t follow my whims.  Consider what happens if a tribal chieftain kills his rebellious second-in-command: nothing, because the second-in-command was, definitionally, the strongest rivalling force in the tribe.  Now consider what happens if Barack Obama kills some leading general: everybody has far more leverage to push back against that kind of abuse of power by one person.</p>
<p>Seems to me that &#8220;better weapons” tend to be highly correlated with “better civilisations”, both in terms of power and in terms of the well-being of their inhabitants.  You can chicken-egg the argument in circles, asking if weapons are the driving force behind progress or vice versa, but it seems to me that the trend is a good thing either way (a &#8220;virtuous spiral&#8221;?).  A world where everybody only has swords (or rocks, or fists) is a world where the strong rule, for a few years, destroying and taking whatever they want until someone stronger takes over from them: nothing can ever change or improve.  No matter how cynical you are about the motives of today&#8217;s leaders, it seems to me that those same people could make your life worse at every lower stage of technological development.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Matt Ridley talk that&#8217;s almost related:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLHh9E5ilZ4" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLHh9E5ilZ4</a></p>
<p>And &#8220;profit&#8221; may sound like a callous motivation, but it&#8217;s also an honest one: could the &#8220;charity&#8221; of a feudal empire, where the emperor has all the swords and soldiers, really have brought us the internet, cars, industrial civilisation, etc?  Or the &#8220;charity&#8221; of the tribal chief?  Of course, I suppose if you *want* to live in a hunter-gatherer society you can do without &#8220;profit&#8221;, but in that case, the only valid reason I can see for using tools more advanced than stone hand-axes would be to righteously knock such tools out of the hands of others, and then drop those tools yourself when the task of limiting others was completed, and thereafter only ever pick up a tool more advanced than a stone hand-axe to keep that level of tool out of the hands of others, and so on, indefinitely.  A sort of self-hamstringing arms-race-in-reverse, a perpetual stagnation machine, fundamentally hostile to all curiosity and growth.  Derrick Jensen seems to me to be the best advocate for this POV, but I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s what you had in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to speak out of place but isn&#039;t this website partially base on extending peoples lives via technology ? computers included 
games are just one way to actually test the durability of the technology people have created</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to speak out of place but isn&#8217;t this website partially base on extending peoples lives via technology ? computers included<br />
games are just one way to actually test the durability of the technology people have created</p>
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		<title>By: MikeB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not one comment on the _downside_ of this yet?
Think the technology through; if the signals can go one way, they can go the other.  The potential now for mind interference is now increasingly present eg. injecting signals to interfere with thought, say, for a violent criminal ... or political one.  Take the technology further and you can overide motor control.  Still, further and you can overide thoughts.  
As lovely as the concept is of expanding the mind through BCI such as this, it is more likely the technology will be used otherwise.  Doubt it?  Ask yourself this, how much of the tremendous strides in computing power have been used for bettering mankind?  Weaponry and profit (gaming &amp; media industries) have been the primary users and motivators of progress, not medicine nor academic research.
The last firewall to your thoughts, is your skull.  Keep it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not one comment on the _downside_ of this yet?<br />
Think the technology through; if the signals can go one way, they can go the other.  The potential now for mind interference is now increasingly present eg. injecting signals to interfere with thought, say, for a violent criminal &#8230; or political one.  Take the technology further and you can overide motor control.  Still, further and you can overide thoughts.<br />
As lovely as the concept is of expanding the mind through BCI such as this, it is more likely the technology will be used otherwise.  Doubt it?  Ask yourself this, how much of the tremendous strides in computing power have been used for bettering mankind?  Weaponry and profit (gaming &amp; media industries) have been the primary users and motivators of progress, not medicine nor academic research.<br />
The last firewall to your thoughts, is your skull.  Keep it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Sno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, it&#039;s just, from my point of view, this is beyond the singularity&#039;s &quot;event horizon&quot;, it&#039;s a tech level too advanced for meaningful speculation. As I see it, we will have very advanced brain augmentation long before we will be able to safely switch substrates. Sure, eventually it should be both possible and desirable, but I think that the people advocating &quot;mind uploading&quot; are too optimistic and getting ahead of themselves. I think that they fail to see the difficulties associated with a safe substrate transfer. Also, they seem to underestimate the relative resilience of biological versus technological (computers break far more easily than brains).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, it&#8217;s just, from my point of view, this is beyond the singularity&#8217;s &#8220;event horizon&#8221;, it&#8217;s a tech level too advanced for meaningful speculation. As I see it, we will have very advanced brain augmentation long before we will be able to safely switch substrates. Sure, eventually it should be both possible and desirable, but I think that the people advocating &#8220;mind uploading&#8221; are too optimistic and getting ahead of themselves. I think that they fail to see the difficulties associated with a safe substrate transfer. Also, they seem to underestimate the relative resilience of biological versus technological (computers break far more easily than brains).</p>
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		<title>By: SmartAndSober</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmartAndSober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE a workaround for having to use thought.
&quot;Workaround&quot; is the essence of technology. 
Instead of building wood horses with legs, people invented carts with wheels.
Instead of building mechanical birds with flapping wings, people built airplanes with fixed wings.
I believe AI will take similar path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE a workaround for having to use thought.<br />
&#8220;Workaround&#8221; is the essence of technology.<br />
Instead of building wood horses with legs, people invented carts with wheels.<br />
Instead of building mechanical birds with flapping wings, people built airplanes with fixed wings.<br />
I believe AI will take similar path.</p>
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		<title>By: SmartAndSober</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmartAndSober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your optimism. But you should know that many artificial substrates can process much faster than the human brains. 
We must speed up the brain to match the new substrates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your optimism. But you should know that many artificial substrates can process much faster than the human brains.<br />
We must speed up the brain to match the new substrates.</p>
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		<title>By: Snazster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snazster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a problem with terms.  AI is just an advanced form of automation, a workaround for having to use thought.  An intelligent entity created by humans but not through use of their DNA  would more properly be referred to as an example of &quot;strong AI&quot; or Synthetic Inteligence (SI) and could conceivably be organic or inorganic or a combination thereof.  It would not be a substitute for intelligence (as AI is) but would actually be intelligence.

We seem to have developed a problem, too, in differentiating &quot;The Technological Singularity&quot; from &quot;a technological singularity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a problem with terms.  AI is just an advanced form of automation, a workaround for having to use thought.  An intelligent entity created by humans but not through use of their DNA  would more properly be referred to as an example of &#8220;strong AI&#8221; or Synthetic Inteligence (SI) and could conceivably be organic or inorganic or a combination thereof.  It would not be a substitute for intelligence (as AI is) but would actually be intelligence.</p>
<p>We seem to have developed a problem, too, in differentiating &#8220;The Technological Singularity&#8221; from &#8220;a technological singularity.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gabor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sno, why wouldn&#039;t it be easy to upload when we have an advanced brain-computer interface and plenty complex artificial substrate available.  I would even argue that as soon as the complexity of the substrate exceeds by some measure the complexity of our biological brain, we would probably have a hard time keeping our consciousness in the real brain.  I think it would be something like a full immersion virtual reality.  If it&#039;s as good (or better) than real reality then most of the time you would not even know where your consciousness resides and if it&#039;s really better, why would you want to regress back to biological?!?  I think at this point we will make a conscious decision to keep our minds away from the original biological (weak) body.  Remember at this point we will still be just the one person (biological and synthetic together) so denying consciousness to the biological part will not be murder or suicide but more like clipping nails as the whole of consciousness will survive with continuity intact.

This might sound frightening today but in a couple of decades we will have augmented brains and the process will start to make more sense as we realize how much more there is to everything and how much our biological brain is missing out of reality.  Just think about it.  The reality we know is nothing but signals in the brain that was sensed, traveled, converted, filtered, etc by a very fragile and inaccurate biological system.  What about all the other parts of reality that we are unable to sense.  Some we have discovered with the help of technology (ultrasound, x-ray, cells, atoms, faraway galaxies, etc) but we still can&#039;t sense them directly and what about all the other things that we don&#039;t know about as of yet.  A worm is not aware that there are TVs because it cannot sense it.  We are still &quot;worms&quot; compared to the augmented and full synthetic brains of the future.  I&#039;m not saying this to downplay humanity as we are IT, we have made this possible with our collective consciousness.  Not the individual brains but the collection of them as in essence we have paralleled millions of minds with the help of written notes (books) first and then with computers and hard drives and the internet.  
Who would&#039;ve thought 50 years ago that we will put 2.5 billion transistors in a postage stamp size shell all but effortlessly and sell it to millions of people, each for less than a month&#039;s rent.  These millions of people are using those devices as we speak and inventing collectively the future that we find hard to wrap our individual minds around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sno, why wouldn&#8217;t it be easy to upload when we have an advanced brain-computer interface and plenty complex artificial substrate available.  I would even argue that as soon as the complexity of the substrate exceeds by some measure the complexity of our biological brain, we would probably have a hard time keeping our consciousness in the real brain.  I think it would be something like a full immersion virtual reality.  If it&#8217;s as good (or better) than real reality then most of the time you would not even know where your consciousness resides and if it&#8217;s really better, why would you want to regress back to biological?!?  I think at this point we will make a conscious decision to keep our minds away from the original biological (weak) body.  Remember at this point we will still be just the one person (biological and synthetic together) so denying consciousness to the biological part will not be murder or suicide but more like clipping nails as the whole of consciousness will survive with continuity intact.</p>
<p>This might sound frightening today but in a couple of decades we will have augmented brains and the process will start to make more sense as we realize how much more there is to everything and how much our biological brain is missing out of reality.  Just think about it.  The reality we know is nothing but signals in the brain that was sensed, traveled, converted, filtered, etc by a very fragile and inaccurate biological system.  What about all the other parts of reality that we are unable to sense.  Some we have discovered with the help of technology (ultrasound, x-ray, cells, atoms, faraway galaxies, etc) but we still can&#8217;t sense them directly and what about all the other things that we don&#8217;t know about as of yet.  A worm is not aware that there are TVs because it cannot sense it.  We are still &#8220;worms&#8221; compared to the augmented and full synthetic brains of the future.  I&#8217;m not saying this to downplay humanity as we are IT, we have made this possible with our collective consciousness.  Not the individual brains but the collection of them as in essence we have paralleled millions of minds with the help of written notes (books) first and then with computers and hard drives and the internet.<br />
Who would&#8217;ve thought 50 years ago that we will put 2.5 billion transistors in a postage stamp size shell all but effortlessly and sell it to millions of people, each for less than a month&#8217;s rent.  These millions of people are using those devices as we speak and inventing collectively the future that we find hard to wrap our individual minds around.</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh it will get dizzying. Surfs up!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Sno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you make a jump from brain-computer interface to &quot;new substrate&quot; (uploading), but i doubt that&#039;s an easy one. The way i see it, we will keep augmenting the brain, while advances in biotech will make the biological parts effectively immortal. The brain-computer interface should evolve until you can&#039;t really tell where the computer ends and where the brain starts, and that&#039;s how we won&#039;t be made obsolete by AIs : we will benefit directly from moore&#039;s law and if we can network our augmented brains, we will still be far above any supercomputer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you make a jump from brain-computer interface to &#8220;new substrate&#8221; (uploading), but i doubt that&#8217;s an easy one. The way i see it, we will keep augmenting the brain, while advances in biotech will make the biological parts effectively immortal. The brain-computer interface should evolve until you can&#8217;t really tell where the computer ends and where the brain starts, and that&#8217;s how we won&#8217;t be made obsolete by AIs : we will benefit directly from moore&#8217;s law and if we can network our augmented brains, we will still be far above any supercomputer.</p>
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		<title>By: MatthewQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MatthewQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past few days there have been many amazing reports and news items. Just before the Singularity I suppose it will be similar to this but there will be items coming from every branch of scientific research. It will maybe feel like a tsunami rising up a few days or weeks beforehand.

Some will be poised with surfboards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past few days there have been many amazing reports and news items. Just before the Singularity I suppose it will be similar to this but there will be items coming from every branch of scientific research. It will maybe feel like a tsunami rising up a few days or weeks beforehand.</p>
<p>Some will be poised with surfboards.</p>
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		<title>By: snake0</title>
		<link>http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-brain-computer-interface-goes-wireless/comment-page-1#comment-105699</link>
		<dc:creator>snake0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope this makes it to human trials before Steven Hawking pops his clogs</description>
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		<title>By: Gabor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are describing augmented human intelligence that eventually turns into AI (augmentation will completely diminish and gradually replace  the original brain), otherwise known as &quot;uploading&quot;.  Yes, this is a good way to stay in the game when AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will commence.

Although I know what you mean, but in my opinion there is no such thing as &quot;real&quot; or artificial intelligence just levels of intelligence.  If you think about it, &quot;real&quot; or human intelligence is artificial.  We are born with a biological substrate that has basic level software (to control bodily functions and give us the potential to learn) and we are modifying (training) it with the help of technology and our culture (a technology itself).  I would even argue that the only major difference between our brain and computers is a sufficient level of miniaturization.  We will achieve the required size/density in the next 15 years and we will interconnect millions of individual functions within arms reach of each other and you wont be able to tell the difference between &quot;it&quot; and an augmented human brain.  I said &quot;augmented human brain&quot; because &quot;it&quot; will be much more intelligent than a biological human brain.

This might be unpopular, but if you are a real realist, you must realize how unintelligent we are as individuals.  I mean think about it, we are still believing in fairy tales (like religion and Congress for that matter).  The hardware we are using is way outdated and much limited,  the only reason we got so far is because of collective intelligence and utilizing technology.  I know some individuals made exceptional contributions but they couldn&#039;t have done it without the prerequisites of collective intelligence that brought them up and helped them along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are describing augmented human intelligence that eventually turns into AI (augmentation will completely diminish and gradually replace  the original brain), otherwise known as &#8220;uploading&#8221;.  Yes, this is a good way to stay in the game when AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) will commence.</p>
<p>Although I know what you mean, but in my opinion there is no such thing as &#8220;real&#8221; or artificial intelligence just levels of intelligence.  If you think about it, &#8220;real&#8221; or human intelligence is artificial.  We are born with a biological substrate that has basic level software (to control bodily functions and give us the potential to learn) and we are modifying (training) it with the help of technology and our culture (a technology itself).  I would even argue that the only major difference between our brain and computers is a sufficient level of miniaturization.  We will achieve the required size/density in the next 15 years and we will interconnect millions of individual functions within arms reach of each other and you wont be able to tell the difference between &#8220;it&#8221; and an augmented human brain.  I said &#8220;augmented human brain&#8221; because &#8220;it&#8221; will be much more intelligent than a biological human brain.</p>
<p>This might be unpopular, but if you are a real realist, you must realize how unintelligent we are as individuals.  I mean think about it, we are still believing in fairy tales (like religion and Congress for that matter).  The hardware we are using is way outdated and much limited,  the only reason we got so far is because of collective intelligence and utilizing technology.  I know some individuals made exceptional contributions but they couldn&#8217;t have done it without the prerequisites of collective intelligence that brought them up and helped them along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently not. &quot;The new wireless device is not approved for use in humans and is not used in clinical trials of brain-computer interfaces. It was designed, however, with that motivation.&quot;

But the day that someone with locked-in syndrome is able to be self-sufficient via new technology is probably not that far in the future.  That would be amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently not. &#8220;The new wireless device is not approved for use in humans and is not used in clinical trials of brain-computer interfaces. It was designed, however, with that motivation.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the day that someone with locked-in syndrome is able to be self-sufficient via new technology is probably not that far in the future.  That would be amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has this device been used with anybody that has locked-in syndrome?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locked-in_syndrome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this device been used with anybody that has locked-in syndrome?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locked-in_syndrome" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locked-in_syndrome</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Combine this with google glass and all is well with the world.</description>
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		<title>By: tim the realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim the realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This device will continue to decrease in size and amount of power required.  The number of probes will continue to increase.  Our understanding of brain circuits will continue to increase.

Within several years we should be able to interface a bird brain into a new, robotic body.  Soon after that we will be able to transfer the thoughts of the bird brain completely into a new substrate.  I believe these efforts will supersede AI since we won&#039;t have to create the initial programming.  The brain functions will be ported over through these interfaces.  This is then real intelligence, not artificial.  Once porting of real intelligence becomes commonplace, who could argue that a ported human intelligence would not still be an intelligent entity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This device will continue to decrease in size and amount of power required.  The number of probes will continue to increase.  Our understanding of brain circuits will continue to increase.</p>
<p>Within several years we should be able to interface a bird brain into a new, robotic body.  Soon after that we will be able to transfer the thoughts of the bird brain completely into a new substrate.  I believe these efforts will supersede AI since we won&#8217;t have to create the initial programming.  The brain functions will be ported over through these interfaces.  This is then real intelligence, not artificial.  Once porting of real intelligence becomes commonplace, who could argue that a ported human intelligence would not still be an intelligent entity?</p>
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