Comments on: The UN fought the Internet — and the Internet won http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won Accelerating Intelligence Mon, 20 May 2013 06:47:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Mike http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-74058 Mike Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:14:11 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-74058 Actually, Somalia is thriving now compared to how it was a decade (or 2) ago. Actually, Somalia is thriving now compared to how it was a decade (or 2) ago.

]]> By: dayhawk http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-72740 dayhawk Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:59:02 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-72740 I feel we have enough problem as it is.I am glad the internet won.. I feel we have enough problem as it is.I am glad the internet won..

]]> By: dayhawk http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-72738 dayhawk Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:57:23 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-72738 yea the UN needs leave internet alone.. let the people like us shape the net and lead the furture yea the UN needs leave internet alone.. let the people like us shape the net and lead the furture

]]> By: dayhawk http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-72737 dayhawk Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:55:20 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-72737 indeed indeed

]]> By: rob falgiano http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-72705 rob falgiano Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:05:52 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-72705 The Russian backslide is a huge disappointment. The Russian backslide is a huge disappointment.

]]> By: Mr.X http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-72603 Mr.X Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:59:33 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-72603 @Mortran: "This is just an unproven claim without any point to back it up." Let's first take the redundancy/noise out of your statement. So your claim reduces to: This is just a claim. "It shows how common the sheep mentality is nowadays." No.Did you have math at school?No offense intended. I like how so many people throw around the word proof. Consider/ google this: "science can only disprove" Just to give one historical example: Do you know Somalia?Do you want to live there!? @Mortran:
“This is just an unproven claim without any point to back it up.”

Let’s first take the redundancy/noise out of your statement.

So your claim reduces to: This is just a claim.

“It shows how common the sheep mentality is nowadays.”
No.Did you have math at school?No offense intended.

I like how so many people throw around the word proof.
Consider/ google this: “science can only disprove”

Just to give one historical example: Do you know Somalia?Do you want to live there!?

]]> By: Mortran http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-72595 Mortran Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:45:11 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-72595 “We join organizations because the alternative, anarchy, doesn’t serve us well.” This is just an unproven claim without any point to back it up. It shows how common the sheep mentality is nowadays. “We join organizations because the alternative, anarchy, doesn’t serve us well.”

This is just an unproven claim without any point to back it up. It shows how common the sheep mentality is nowadays.

]]> By: Gary Gapinski http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71890 Gary Gapinski Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:47:47 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71890 The ITU does seem to lack the transparency and inclusion that the IETF for example demonstrates. Perhaps over the coming years it can adopt the practices of the organizations who have successfully fostered and guided the modern day Internet so that the next ITU WCIT is regarded in higher esteem than that with which WCIT-12 appears to have been. When the ITU strays from frequency allocations and transit protocols, as appears to have been partially the case, it risks irrelevance, particularly when it attempts to regulate the nature of information, rather than simply the conveyance thereof. The difference is that of network engineering versus notwork engineering. The latter should be eschewed, as it is evil. The ITU does seem to lack the transparency and inclusion that the IETF for example demonstrates. Perhaps over the coming years it can adopt the practices of the organizations who have successfully fostered and guided the modern day Internet so that the next ITU WCIT is regarded in higher esteem than that with which WCIT-12 appears to have been.

When the ITU strays from frequency allocations and transit protocols, as appears to have been partially the case, it risks irrelevance, particularly when it attempts to regulate the nature of information, rather than simply the conveyance thereof.

The difference is that of network engineering versus notwork engineering. The latter should be eschewed, as it is evil.

]]> By: Mr.X http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71783 Mr.X Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:08:36 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71783 @Paul: "We join organizations because the alternative, anarchy, doesn’t serve us well." That's something which all those anti-government fanatics will never understand.That's what happens when a people thinks emotion and reason are equally valuable. @Paul:
“We join organizations because the alternative, anarchy, doesn’t serve us well.”

That’s something which all those anti-government fanatics will never understand.That’s what happens when a people thinks emotion and reason are equally valuable.

]]> By: paulwhois http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71776 paulwhois Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:50:27 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71776 The proposal to give greater control of the Internet to individual countries was DEFEATED in the United Nations by MEMBERS of the United Nations. Were those countries opposed to the initiative not members, it would have carried. I’ve never heard so much negative, uninformed, knee-jerk weenie-whining in one forum than I‘ve heard here on this issue, and all directed against an organization that had just voted to PROTECT our liberties. Please, grow up children and get an education. We join organizations because the alternative, anarchy, doesn’t serve us well. If there were some intelligence here, we might be hearing proposals like how can we use the UN to push for eliminating country codes from IP addresses, an unfortunate custom that has given governments and organizations like RIAA arbitrary, pernicious control over us. The proposal to give greater control of the Internet to individual countries was DEFEATED in the United Nations by MEMBERS of the United Nations. Were those countries opposed to the initiative not members, it would have carried. I’ve never heard so much negative, uninformed, knee-jerk weenie-whining in one forum than I‘ve heard here on this issue, and all directed against an organization that had just voted to PROTECT our liberties. Please, grow up children and get an education. We join organizations because the alternative, anarchy, doesn’t serve us well. If there were some intelligence here, we might be hearing proposals like how can we use the UN to push for eliminating country codes from IP addresses, an unfortunate custom that has given governments and organizations like RIAA arbitrary, pernicious control over us.

]]> By: bg http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71488 bg Sun, 16 Dec 2012 04:28:56 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71488 voting machine contribute to winning in Indian elections sopecially to the party in power voting machine contribute to winning in Indian elections sopecially to the party in power

]]> By: Dr. X http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71470 Dr. X Sun, 16 Dec 2012 03:46:03 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71470 Those regimes wont give up and will keep trying... Anyhow censorship of internet already implemented in Russia, plus internet service providers there HAD to install specialized hardware provided by government agencies for traffic monitoring purposes... Those regimes wont give up and will keep trying…

Anyhow censorship of internet already implemented in Russia, plus internet service providers there HAD to install specialized hardware provided by government agencies for traffic monitoring purposes…

]]> By: Mr.X http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71260 Mr.X Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:26:47 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71260 @Jim: Sadly most citizen go along with all this. @Jim:
Sadly most citizen go along with all this.

]]> By: Fernando Barrera http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71255 Fernando Barrera Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:15:47 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71255 Marcos Marin: After the scandal on Rio voting electronic system, I wouldn't say so. Marcos Marin: After the scandal on Rio voting electronic system, I wouldn’t say so.

]]> By: Mosaic Browser User http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-71205 Mosaic Browser User Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:49:41 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-71205 I'm sure they are all well-meaning people at the UN. Aren't you - and if not, why? I’m sure they are all well-meaning people at the UN.
Aren’t you – and if not, why?

]]> By: MrFriendly http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70681 MrFriendly Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:03:57 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70681 China, Russia, and Islamic nations are behind this. The internet helps inspire uprisings like the Arab Spring, along with protests of corrupt leaders like Putin and China's ruling party. China, Russia, and Islamic nations are behind this. The internet helps inspire uprisings like the Arab Spring, along with protests of corrupt leaders like Putin and China’s ruling party.

]]> By: Jim Mooney http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70589 Jim Mooney Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:46:15 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70589 I read the ITU secretary general's lying statement that "all views should be considered." If one of those views is to shackle the net, forget it. The net was created by the US govt and developed at first, by its citizens. It doesn't belong to them so they can go to hell. I read the ITU secretary general’s lying statement that “all views should be considered.” If one of those views is to shackle the net, forget it. The net was created by the US govt and developed at first, by its citizens. It doesn’t belong to them so they can go to hell.

]]> By: Jim Mooney http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70581 Jim Mooney Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:38:14 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70581 Really - after starting an oil war based on bald lies (that didn't even get us any oil) in Iraq, that killed hundreds of thousands, including children, we really can't talk much about human rights. The government can't with any credibility, anyway. We citizens who didn't go along with that worthless war certainly have the right to do so. Really – after starting an oil war based on bald lies (that didn’t even get us any oil) in Iraq, that killed hundreds of thousands, including children, we really can’t talk much about human rights. The government can’t with any credibility, anyway. We citizens who didn’t go along with that worthless war certainly have the right to do so.

]]> By: GAUSS http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70522 GAUSS Sat, 15 Dec 2012 00:37:26 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70522 "I fought the law and the law won..." “I fought the law and the law won…”

]]> By: Teri Greene http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70352 Teri Greene Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:35:13 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70352 I was struck by the complaint about physical vs. electronic voting. If I'd been there and they were voting electronically, I would have started yelling, "NO! Use a physical voting system! Colorful paddles and human counters!" Here's a room full of people many of whom want to take control of the internet, and they have secret meetings. How could electronic voting be considered okay? Especially after the voting machine nightmare in the US, I would not trust these power grabbers to not hack the vote. I was struck by the complaint about physical vs. electronic voting. If I’d been there and they were voting electronically, I would have started yelling, “NO! Use a physical voting system! Colorful paddles and human counters!”
Here’s a room full of people many of whom want to take control of the internet, and they have secret meetings. How could electronic voting be considered okay? Especially after the voting machine nightmare in the US, I would not trust these power grabbers to not hack the vote.

]]> By: GAUSS http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70288 GAUSS Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:21:45 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70288 Nobody else got the Sonny Curtis reference?? Nobody else got the Sonny Curtis reference??

]]> By: Stepan Chizhov http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70276 Stepan Chizhov Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:50:53 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70276 There's much older papal election tradition =)) There’s much older papal election tradition =))

]]> By: Gabriel http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70274 Gabriel Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:48:42 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70274 What a magnificent year it's been for Internet Rights and rights in general!!! We lost Megavideo, unfortunately, but I'm happy that everytime something like this happened, it was deterred at every chance. Cynicism may say that they may just find a more subtle way, or that (within the USA), monitoring and control already take place...but Privacy and Liberty are always things to fight for and I'm happy that the Internet, relatively speaking, remains open and free as it ever was. What a magnificent year it’s been for Internet Rights and rights in general!!! We lost Megavideo, unfortunately, but I’m happy that everytime something like this happened, it was deterred at every chance.

Cynicism may say that they may just find a more subtle way, or that (within the USA), monitoring and control already take place…but Privacy and Liberty are always things to fight for and I’m happy that the Internet, relatively speaking, remains open and free as it ever was.

]]> By: daleziemianski http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70269 daleziemianski Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:35:54 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70269 Prepare to be assimilated -- http://d-alien.com/images/The_United_Nations_Building.jpg Prepare to be assimilated —
http://d-alien.com/images/The_United_Nations_Building.jpg

]]> By: sTEEVEE http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70216 sTEEVEE Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:24:02 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70216 Dude...yo, dude... yeah, you. The one with the laptop upside-down. GET A F()@#EN LIFE! The genie's been outta the bottle here for what...about 40 years? BTW- the keyboard goes on the bottom. Dude…yo, dude… yeah, you. The one with the laptop upside-down. GET A F()@#EN LIFE! The genie’s been outta the bottle here for what…about 40 years? BTW- the keyboard goes on the bottom.

]]> By: asiwel http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70215 asiwel Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:20:25 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70215 Honestly, all the babble about the "awful" UN and how it is trying to take over the world and should be disbanded, etc., always seems to me to be adolescent and historically unaware at best. The UN (and World Bank, IMF, and WTO, etc) is for sure a "severely compromised" organization - no matter what your perspective is. However, it is much better than "nothing" and it provides a forum for raising all sorts of issues to a level of "transparency" - I mean, we knew they were meeting about this, even if behind closed doors, so we could marshall strong international "assent" or "dissent" for or against it. It didn't "just happen" all of a sudden by decree. That's a good thing. Besides other parts of the UN do good work often - such as UNICEF. Honestly, all the babble about the “awful” UN and how it is trying to take over the world and should be disbanded, etc., always seems to me to be adolescent and historically unaware at best. The UN (and World Bank, IMF, and WTO, etc) is for sure a “severely compromised” organization – no matter what your perspective is. However, it is much better than “nothing” and it provides a forum for raising all sorts of issues to a level of “transparency” – I mean, we knew they were meeting about this, even if behind closed doors, so we could marshall strong international “assent” or “dissent” for or against it. It didn’t “just happen” all of a sudden by decree. That’s a good thing. Besides other parts of the UN do good work often – such as UNICEF.

]]> By: James Bergstrom http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70206 James Bergstrom Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:06:32 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70206 I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment and advice. The power is slowly but surely going back to citizens in all countries. I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment and advice. The power is slowly but surely going back to citizens in all countries.

]]> By: Mr.X http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70197 Mr.X Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:53:44 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70197 @Locke: "Any organisation who will let countries like Iran and China have an equal voice in the human rights debate has to be disbanded." Not to mention the USA! About the rest: I agree with your assessment of the UN. @Locke:
“Any organisation who will let countries like Iran and China have an equal voice in the human rights debate has to be disbanded.”

Not to mention the USA!

About the rest: I agree with your assessment of the UN.

]]> By: enrique http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70195 enrique Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:52:24 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70195 the UN is the most estatist intitution, when we will learn? the UN is the most estatist intitution, when we will learn?

]]> By: Locke http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70170 Locke Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:26:21 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70170 What a surprise, the bureaucratic behemoth that is the UN tries to take over as world government one little step at a time, but fails under its own weight and antiquated ideas and methods. When will we learn to not listen to them? Any organisation who will let countries like Iran and China have an equal voice in the human rights debate has to be disbanded. Unfortunately the only way to rid ourselves of their influence now is to consistently vote for political leaders who are not enamoured with this type of out of touch world government. What a surprise, the bureaucratic behemoth that is the UN tries to take over as world government one little step at a time, but fails under its own weight and antiquated ideas and methods.

When will we learn to not listen to them? Any organisation who will let countries like Iran and China have an equal voice in the human rights debate has to be disbanded.

Unfortunately the only way to rid ourselves of their influence now is to consistently vote for political leaders who are not enamoured with this type of out of touch world government.

]]> By: Mosaic Browser User http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70161 Mosaic Browser User Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:16:39 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70161 Just tell me one reason, or by all means more if you have, why is it a bad idea that we have an intelligence test for our leaders and policy makers? Below IQ 120-140 or whatever it is that's necessary to be considered normal by intelligent people, you're not even considered. Isn't it strikingly stupid that we don't have the smartest available people in our governments? Democracy yes, but let the voters vote only those whose minds function normally as judged by uncheatable, impartial tests. Just tell me one reason, or by all means more if you have, why is it a bad idea that we have an intelligence test for our leaders and policy makers?

Below IQ 120-140 or whatever it is that’s necessary to be considered normal by intelligent people, you’re not even considered.

Isn’t it strikingly stupid that we don’t have the smartest available people in our governments? Democracy yes, but let the voters vote only those whose minds function normally as judged by uncheatable, impartial tests.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70133 Daniel Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:47:32 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70133 What this issue proves is that we we don't need is the UN and all of its bureaucratic bull$hit. Read the statement by Toure...it will make you want to throw up. As someone else pointed out, people with no experience with the technology, no business experience, no skin in the game, in other words people who have zero to offer in any productive way are abrogating to themselves power that we should cleave from their grimy, corrupt, malevolent hands. What this issue proves is that we we don’t need is the UN and all of its bureaucratic bull$hit.
Read the statement by Toure…it will make you want to throw up. As someone else pointed out, people with no experience with the technology, no business experience, no skin in the game, in other words people who have zero to offer in any productive way are abrogating to themselves power that we should cleave from their grimy, corrupt, malevolent hands.

]]> By: Marcos Marin http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70103 Marcos Marin Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:06:05 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70103 As I said a few months ago, humanity is quite lucky their evil doers are so incompetent. You may have to wait for me to wake you out of your boredom.. maybe de Garis is right after all... As I said a few months ago, humanity is quite lucky their evil doers are so incompetent. You may have to wait for me to wake you out of your boredom.. maybe de Garis is right after all…

]]> By: Marcos Marin http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70098 Marcos Marin Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:02:35 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70098 word government? Micro$oft Word Government? lol simple, it would be TOO IRONIC, to use the internet there. =) word government? Micro$oft Word Government? lol

simple, it would be TOO IRONIC, to use the internet there. =)

]]> By: Marcos Marin http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70097 Marcos Marin Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:01:06 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70097 The Brazilian government, and I'm sure many others, can still do that -- using modern electronic voting technology -- and be out before lunch, spending their new raise on tourism. The Brazilian government, and I’m sure many others, can still do that — using modern electronic voting technology — and be out before lunch, spending their new raise on tourism.

]]> By: Gorden Russell http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-70043 Gorden Russell Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:36:29 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-70043 ‘consensus by exhaustion’ was the only fall-back position.” That's an old fashioned method used by criminals to take over unions back in the early days of the labor movement. They would keep everybody awake until those with day jobs just had to go home to sleep. Then those who remained, who weren't going to work in the morning, voted in their cronies and then voted themselves big raises and offered loans out of the union strike fund. This is such an old criminal tactic, very few people remember it. ‘consensus by exhaustion’ was the only fall-back position.”

That’s an old fashioned method used by criminals to take over unions back in the early days of the labor movement. They would keep everybody awake until those with day jobs just had to go home to sleep. Then those who remained, who weren’t going to work in the morning, voted in their cronies and then voted themselves big raises and offered loans out of the union strike fund.

This is such an old criminal tactic, very few people remember it.

]]> By: Mosaic Browser User http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-69973 Mosaic Browser User Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:50:17 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-69973 They can't even use today's technology? Wow. Just wow. You just can't make this stuff up. Soo, people who had (have, and never will) nothing to do with a technology (internet), just decide that they should decide how it should be used. Seems like the definition of the word government. Now tell me what's wrong with this? They can’t even use today’s technology? Wow. Just wow. You just can’t make this stuff up.

Soo, people who had (have, and never will) nothing to do with a technology (internet), just decide that they should decide how it should be used. Seems like the definition of the word government.

Now tell me what’s wrong with this?

]]> By: Bri http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-u-n-fought-the-internet-and-the-internet-won/comment-page-1#comment-69952 Bri Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:17:51 +0000 http://www.kurzweilai.net/?p=174578#comment-69952 Obviously the machinations of the UN need to be updated. All material being discussed needs to be open to the public, even if that country isn't an open style government. A country like China encourages cyber warfare, but the very same tools can bring it down. As hackers learn to defeat the security systems, they also learn to have access to the very information that The Chinese government wants to hide. One way or another, dissident information will get through. Even if it's by a network of faxes. Open access to information and governance is what we are evolving toward. Obviously the machinations of the UN need to be updated. All material being discussed needs to be open to the public, even if that country isn’t an open style government. A country like China encourages cyber warfare, but the very same tools can bring it down. As hackers learn to defeat the security systems, they also learn to have access to the very information that The Chinese government wants to hide. One way or another, dissident information will get through. Even if it’s by a network of faxes. Open access to information and governance is what we are evolving toward.

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