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John McCain and his contemporaries are saber-rattling in the general direction of Syria and Howard Bloom offers his opinion on that.
– The Amazing Atheist
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We are a species that not only tolerates but even encourages an astounding amount of violence. One solution would be to have zero-tolerance and remove violent people immediately from society, no matter how little violence, until only non-violent are left.
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Why is this on this website? It has nothing to do with accelerating technology. Since when did this website turn political?
This site is not limited to technology. It is focused on the long-range future of humanity too, which appears to be in jeopardy from foolish wars. We are not interested in politics.
The AI of KAI means accelerating intelligence. Hopefully some of that accelerating intelligence is the intelligence to not make war. ( See even Bloom”s intelligence is accelerating. He originally was for the gulf war. Now he’s smarter!).[i couldn't resist!]
Well put. I’ll let you answer these questions from now on! :)
Who was that masked man?????
…..I sure hope that one day we find a way to eliminate wars from Earth and could use all that same energy and money to do good things instead. What if we were suddenly all on the same side and our enemy was no longer the other guy…but hunger and disease and lack of education… etc. I guess in a way the reason wars occur is that basic needs are not being met (take N.Korea for example…they can’t feed their people yet they seem to spend all their energy on gearing up their military… maybe mostly so the citizens don’t rise up against a gov’t with very strong military). Anyhow…. my hope with technology is that we do figure out how to stop most diseases (thank you to the Gates foundation, etc) and also help feed people and have the bare basics… some cool research on people that have their needs met are less likely to go to war. So maybe technology will one day let us be our best selves, vs stuck in some waring like nature we seem to resort to easily.
Been thinking a lot recently on if there is intelligent life on other planets ….if so, how did they develop, etc… So I think it is a goldilox situation (again), if you are too peaceful a species, then you might sit around all day at the campfire just telling stories and thus maybe too peaceful never gets to the point you invent radio towers (often needed for war uses) or airplanes (drop bombs), or maybe too peaceful a civilization just gives out hugs all day and sing kumbaya around the campfire. Too war like and you kill off everyone (or maybe through DNA selection the war bound genes kill themselves off over enough generations…. add quote of meek shall inherit the earth here). In summary you almost need war to accelerate invention and development and mass organize for creation of things… but not too much war like instinct as you just re-zero your populations and it does so much damage. Almost need the constant threat of war, so you do all the technology to advance each other….then never actually use the Nukes, etc…so in summary you need Peace Through Superior Firepower, but the wisdom to never go to war. We seem to still be using much of our lizard brains to keep going to war, or at least pretending to be the older wiser big brother on the fighting playground of Earth.
OK, more to the rant… it really upsets me me when I see how long it takes us to recover from a massive hurricane or tornado, or fire, or oil spill. We can invade entire countries, but when we need to invade our own country (insert joke about new orleans here just to drop off water) we seem to fail repeatedly. We can’t put out forest fires, we can’t stop tornados, or volcanos, or any natural event…we can only clean up afterwards and even then we rely more on Red Cross or someone else than our own governments to do it well. Lets clean up some of our own messes before we run around and fix everyone else. Yeah I hate the crazy slaughter of any peoples for any reason (always religion and politics btw), but sometimes you do have to pick the log out of your own eye before you can remove the splinters from your neighbor’s eye.
I love to joke with people that we really had it made when we were jellyfish and nothing else, just basking in the sun. Then that dammed Precambrian explosion came and wrecked everything. In the long run I don’t think it’s too bad to spend a couple of billion years at an evolutionary plateau. After that it’s good to roll up your sleeves and get some evolutionary work done. Woops! almost forgot to bring it back to your comment. It’s when we have other things competing with us and trying to eat use that we do some of our best work.
some more comments/ideas here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6paYu3GM2Y
Oh boy!!??? You know it’s up to the individual to be informed. Nobody can force you to see things, you have to look for yourself. If I’m looking at the recent developments in Syria I’m not looking to Joward bloom for insight. Since it’s posted here I’ll look. I’m hoping that some other people realize that Mr. Bloom isn’t skilled in Arab affairs, international politics, military strategy, or middle east history.
I was listening to The John Bachelor show on Saturday night. He did z book review and interview with a military analyst about the whole history of Arab politics. From the Ottoman empire to our muddling recently. It was spot on. It’s from the perspective of a militarist. I’m a peace nick. Unlike Bloom I haven’t changed my mind towards the US involvement in the middle east. I don’t side with the analyst. I think we need to be involved but I wouldn’t recommend the comando style operations that Bloom refers to. The military analyst wouldn’t either. From his perspective Bloom would be making the same mistake just on a smaller scale.
Blooms whole presentation seems more like a parody. Calling us boys and girls. The strange backlighting that makes him appear as a shadowy frizzy face. The comical graphics snd titles. It doesn’t lend credibility to his abilities to analyze world affairs. I really can’t take anything he has said as having much impact. Did we waste time, money and lives in the middle east? Did we lose stature in the world arena? Does s bear s**t in the woods? At least he got that part of the analysis right.
Iran didn’t win in Iraq. We got ride of there enemy and made things easier for them, but they have their own problems with influence in the region. Did Egypt and Libya become democracies modeled on the US? No and neither did the Soviet Union when it fell, or China when it adopted some capitalism. Ray was right in predicting the fall of the Soviet Union and the very same reasons are at work in the middle east.
I hope when we pick our political pundits that we choose wisely. That they actually have some knowledge base. The military analyst may have his facts straight but I reject his conclusions. I’m more incline to follow Rays line of reasoning. We need to have influence but I would stregthen the peoples abilities to govern themselves rather than cronies or thugs, and that includes us. A well regulated militia that uses words instead of bullets. They may be transmitted by fax machines or cell phones. The main forces should be the people not the pundits. The people and there actual needs, not mosey meddling outsiders who seek to have political influence. I totally reject Blooms presentation.
I would agree that everything you said is relatively true. However like most people that want to make their point you only give you half the truth. For example You ignored all the good that was done in Iraq. After taking down some Saddam’s regime women and children were able to actually walk the streets without fear. They were no longer being put in prisons for no reason. Commerce grew rapidly, street vendors flourished once again. Hospitals were built that would not have been built otherwise. Water supply for the masses became a reality. Sanitation was put in place where none had previously existed, and sanitation improved in others areas. Hundreds if not thousands of people were killed under his regime. 250,000 were gassed at one time. In the overall picture we most likely saved more lives than were lost by far. We stop him from taking over oil fields in Kuwatt and I’m sure Saudia Arabia would have been his next target disrupting the world oil supply. And the list goes on and on. I don’t know what kind of a price tag you can put on that. And I recognize that we will have to see in the long run whether or not Iraq takes advantage of the break that we gave them. But it is not as lopsided as you made it sound.
My goodness, Roy. Your ignorance on why we went into Iraq, and who was responsible for their 3rd world conditions (in the first place) is astounding. Furthermore, some of what you say is pure propaganda. Regurgitated, and spewed.
Unfortunately, I’ve learned over the years there is no cutting through the ignorance of the programmed, much like there is no dislodging the circular logic of a wide-eyed bible thumper.
Maybe the dirty little secret is that our only remaining major exports are bombs, tanks and guns.
There is no dirty secret here. Can you name one large country that dosen’t sell bombs and guns.
Our lack of exports has to due with economic repercussions as I suspect you already know if you just gave it some thought before making that comment.
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