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	<title>Comments on: What comes after the cloud? How about the fog?</title>
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		<title>By: donjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>donjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Freenet without the security, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Freenet without the security, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Haytham El Mardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haytham El Mardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is why we need Sumform to store data on their cloud SERVERS if we can use the same model collectively and have reciprocal agreements between business partners. I mean if we have companies A and B then company A can upload data to B and reciprocally B will upload A and that is that. If the issue is trust then why trust company C?
I mean Symform make sense for transactional information on the run but for old gigantic backups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is why we need Sumform to store data on their cloud SERVERS if we can use the same model collectively and have reciprocal agreements between business partners. I mean if we have companies A and B then company A can upload data to B and reciprocally B will upload A and that is that. If the issue is trust then why trust company C?<br />
I mean Symform make sense for transactional information on the run but for old gigantic backups.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron
The trick is distributed backup. If the data is important, you don&#039;t want the backup saved in the same locale. Then, If a disaster occurs, nothing is lost. The free bit is secondary for people with precious data. And many have lots of open drive space on secondary servers. 

This is somewhat like how torrents work in distributed file-sharing. But I&#039;d want to test the system very thoroughly to ensure it&#039;s reliable. Encrypting each packet and storing them randomly adds a lot of points for failure and many simpler backup systems fail in practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron<br />
The trick is distributed backup. If the data is important, you don&#8217;t want the backup saved in the same locale. Then, If a disaster occurs, nothing is lost. The free bit is secondary for people with precious data. And many have lots of open drive space on secondary servers. </p>
<p>This is somewhat like how torrents work in distributed file-sharing. But I&#8217;d want to test the system very thoroughly to ensure it&#8217;s reliable. Encrypting each packet and storing them randomly adds a lot of points for failure and many simpler backup systems fail in practice.</p>
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		<title>By: WLGJR</title>
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		<dc:creator>WLGJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know that information is more important than money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know that information is more important than money.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I want to store 10 Gb of data in the cloud, I need to allow someone else to store 20 Gb on my computer for it to be free? That seems like a lot of storage space so I can back up my data. This business model is... questionable. Why would I pay for so much storage to back up someone else&#039;s files?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I want to store 10 Gb of data in the cloud, I need to allow someone else to store 20 Gb on my computer for it to be free? That seems like a lot of storage space so I can back up my data. This business model is&#8230; questionable. Why would I pay for so much storage to back up someone else&#8217;s files?</p>
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		<title>By: hlampert</title>
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		<dc:creator>hlampert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love how they totally disregard bandwidth usage and cost considerations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love how they totally disregard bandwidth usage and cost considerations.</p>
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		<title>By: mika69</title>
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		<dc:creator>mika69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per month pricing is not the solution... ask Kim Dotcom</description>
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