Crowdsourcing expertise
August 16, 2012
Crowdsourcing — posing a question or asking for help from a large group of people — has allowed many problems to be solved, like scan for new galaxies and climate modeling, that would be impossible for experts alone..
But what if the crowd was asked to decide what questions to ask in the first place?
University of Vermont researchers Josh Bongard and Paul Hines decided to explore that question by seeing if volunteers who visited two different websites could pose, refine, and answer questions of each other that could predict the volunteers’ body weight and home electricity use.
Crowd-sourced predictive models
The resulting self-directed questions and answers by visitors to the websites led to computer models that effectively predict a user’s monthly electricity consumption and body mass index. The results, were published in “Crowdsourcing Predictors of Behavioral Outcomes” in IEEE Transactions: Systems, Man and Cybernetics.
“It’s proof of concept that a crowd actually can come up with good questions that lead to good hypotheses,” says Bongard, an expert on machine science.
In other words, the wisdom of the crowd can be harnessed to create a crowd-sourced predictive model that can determine which variables to study, the UVM project shows — and at the same time provide a pool of data by responding to the questions they ask of each other.
“Going forward, this approach may allow us to involve the public in deciding what it is that is interesting to study,” says Hines. “It’s potentially a new way to do science.”
And there are many reasons why this new approach might be helpful. In addition to forces that experts might simply not know about — “can we elicit unexpected predictors that an expert would not have come up with sitting in his office?” Hines asks — experts often have deeply held biases.
The UVM team primarily sees their new approach as potentially helping to accelerate the process of scientific discovery. The need for expert involvement — in shaping, say, what questions to ask on a survey or what variable to change to optimize an engineering design — “can become a bottleneck to new insights,” the scientists write.
The goal: “exponential rises” in the discovery of what causes behaviors and patterns — probably driven by the people who care about them the most. For example, “it might be smokers or people suffering from various diseases,” says Bongard. The team thinks this new approach to science could “mirror the exponential growth found in other online collaborative communities,” they write.
Case in point: expert comments on the KurzweilAI website are often helpful in developing story ideas. — Ed.

Comments (13)
by Katherine MacLean (old science fiction writer and research fan
Can I just edit out my page of all the miles of mutual exchanges of insults without cutting the fun for readers who are amused by shouting contests? Sorry if there is a way everyone knows and I don’t. I do want to keep the good tech and logical comments to reread but to reread morons calling each other names is discouraging
by Editor
Katherine: A good idea, but we don’t have that feature — and unfortunately, it would be smart enough to replace editors! :)
by Bri
I think a good idea goes viral on it’s own. Excellent post Gator,,I think that proceed is well underway. In many respects it’s what made the Arab spring happen. One incident in Tunsia spread like wild fire, and a group mind formed to adresses the issues of oppression.. I think that it will be the backbone of the new world order. Not to fight with bombs, but to engage with words. After all the pen is mightier than the sword. It’s more of a Gandi, or Martin Luther approach. To steal a line from Inception, what is the most powerful force? An idea. If it has real truth to it, it answers the questions or needs of those exposed to it. The Internet gets everyone achance to be exposed to an idea. If it solves basic questions, the idea can spread like wildfire. Humanity does become a group mind or Borg.
by GatorALLin
….yeah… maybe the way we invade a country in the future is not with bombs, but by putting up cell towers and passing out free cell phones to get people to talk and unite with better ideas that serve the people. When done on a massive scale it has massive power to change. When I travel to foreign countries and turn on the TV, I am always amazed to see all the US TV shows translated in so many languages. I have to wonder how our culture as an idea (virus) has infected other culture’s definition of cool or what others want. How does MTV and Xgames influence the world’s definition of cool? I don’t know of many TV shows shown in USA where they are translated from another language/culture….yet seems to be the rule everywhere else world wide…. Have to wonder how that has changed or affecting things….. It has been amazing to watch how capitalism has changed China for example in just a few short years. (does WalMart get the credit….or blame for some or most of that?).
by Editor
See http://pushback.com/terror/freedomphones/
by Bri
Iran is a good example. There youth is so Americanized, the ruling elite are very frustrated, I mean, we are the great Satan. If you can get past wanting to bomb the bozos in charge, the people are quite charming. They love poetry. Have since the beginning of the written word. They love to get together in a hidden location and recite together. Sure would be nice if we were influenced by them more directly. More bridges, less bombs. In the long run, crowd sourcing is like a town meeting in the village square. One of the most important things in my mind is openness. If someone comes on and is incomprehensible, they should still be respected. This tendency to assassinate character and denigrate is counter productive. Many cultures have stories of the lowest of the low, doing something that’s saved the group. We all need to feel as a part of a clan of sorts. A mind experiment that I came up with in high school can really illustrate this. Take all the things you love in life, your favorite anythings. Now envision that your totally alone. No one else on the planet. Never was never will be. How enjoyable are those things now? We do things for other people, truly not ourselves.
by trakk
few weeks ago, i had an idea. Create a blog named ” One idea blog dot com” where any person from any part of the world can give one idea that he/she thinks will change the world. An entire blog devoted only to ideas.
by GatorALLin
It has been fun to watch the evolution of crowd sourcing and I would think it is still at its infancy stage. Huge changes like connecting everyone on the planet (thanks internet) and giving everyone low cost computers and tools to share ideas/info (thanks cell phones, video/camera, apps, etc) happened so fast. The hive or borg like possibilities seem to turn the game of knowledge upside down so that the rules of highest possible outcome (right answer) mixed with the rules lowest common denominator come together so that anyone and everyone can participate at their own pace and ideas float better/faster to the top.
Websites like http://www.petridish.org and http://www.kickstarter.com and indiegogo.com are letting ideas win. Where it used to take a huge company and millions of dollars and patents and lawyers and hundreds of meetings to get good ideas out, now it can be reduced to some person sitting at their computer. Any website that allows for comments to be posted can help create better ideas… CNN.com for example… Yes the articles are interesting, but I often find I am way more interested in what the Perception of that article is vs. the Perception of who write it. I get 10x the perception…or ideas…or impact of what the article means to others from the comments…. (sort by most popular, sort by most active posts, sort by newest…these quick sorting tools for thousands of posts lets the good ideas float to the top automatically). In part this is fueled by the ME generation… the Facebook ideas that what I think is somehow important. I get to comment on CNN about anything… what I think matters…at least that is MY perception and thus my reality.
..anyhow.. I recently did a DNA test at http://www.23andme.com and they are crowd-sourcing the people that each have the disease that you are at higher risk for. Sure scientists want to solve cancer…. but not as much as those that actually have it. it turns out really smart people get cancer too and if you get enough really smart and passionate people to share ideas you can solve problems faster. I have already seen some cases where a group forms very quickly and without any official organization proves to be a massive data mining tool. Think of lowest common denominator rules… Anyone finds useful info…they can share it instantly with the entire group….they don’t even have to understand what the article means…others in the group will help with that part.
I love what http://www.ted.com has done to get smart people together and share ideas. How cool is it that they limit the video length and keep it simple. How cool is it that good ideas get shared better/faster.
If the singularity is going to happen we need a lot more really good ideas…and not just more, we need them at an increasing pace. The old system of waiting for ideas to get out of a hundred meetings…or a big slow moving company….or a broken University system chained down with lack of funding..or bureaucracy and government red tape is just a joke. What if good ideas could win? …. not just rich or powerful people or just big companies… what if all the barriers and other agendas to getting a good idea out were taken away..
Watching http://www.kickstarter.com has been amazing… So it goes way beyond just raising money for a new idea….You can actually not be sure if your idea is good, but put it out there and the world will vote with cash. If a bad idea….no harm, no foul the crowd was billed $0 as you did not reach your funding total goal (tipping point of making it happen). But if the idea is good you get more than a marketing study…you get the funding to make it happen!!. As an inventor you ask a lot of people what they think..but is that advice any good? Well if they vote with cash then that vote is worth a lot more than just some artificial false encouragement feedback you can get from family or friends…. CrowdFunding is only one part of crowd sourcing ideas, but in this economy and any economy it is a major part of getting ideas to market. Or with http://www.petridish.org getting science ideas done.
We have always expected governments, or Universities or Companies to create the ideas, especially the big ideas, but they are often inefficient or have agendas that can differ from the best idea for the people they serve.
It would be interesting to discuss on this site, what things could be added so that it would encourage more posting, or more idea sharing. Ideas are like good viruses …so if you could create a great virus how would you spread it (as an idea)?
by Editor
“It would be interesting to discuss on this site, what things could be added so that it would encourage more posting, or more idea sharing. Ideas are like good viruses …so if you could create a great virus how would you spread it (as an idea)?”
Game on! Fire away — Amara
by GatorALLin
……. Love to add a few things so that more posting is encouraged to help grow the site (more postings = higher google ranking = more people finding the site, win/win).
#1 Allow posters to create more info in their profile. Make it easy to add in any Avatar picture. Click on any user to get more info.
#2 Default option ON to email me when reply to any article I made comments to…. so I can easily return to view, or reply (if I put an email inside my profile info of course) Allow some personal info like my email to be hidden from other posters. Allow me to read most of comments from email so if not important I am not required to return to your site to see postings, but can if large posting done. Inside email is line that allows me to remove from future emails any thread with simple 1 click link (no need to return to website to un-follow any thread).
3. Track total posts per avatar, or first post, or location of city/country, I am from next to avatar. Or like Ted.com track Thumps UP. or other ways to encourage LIKE next to posts. Lets me see how active other posters are…etc.
4. I see all posts listed by newest at the top, other than replies are done under other posts (love that this is indented in, so visually easy to see, nice work!). Some posts have 60+ comments, so in that case let us sort by most replied to…or oldest, or Most Liked or Most disliked… You need some fast/intuative way to sort large numbers of posts and also let good ideas float to the top easier. (follow what CNN did)
5. I like you can now edit posts for 5 min. but hate that if you are in the middle of an edit and still making changes and run out of time you lose your last change. Why not let poster edit last post without time limit set? or if active change window in progress you don’t time out. Post should not wait to show up to others… just make edit if edit is added.
6. I love you can easily share links or websites. But, I want to be able to also add IIMG or pictures inside my post. Text is so boring… if a picture is worth 1,000 words then they are better/faster ways to share ideas. If picture too big, then have it autosize down, so if you click on image it can expand. Photobucket and may picture sites allow 4 image types, but IMG seems to be the most used format.
Sample: [IMG]http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af261/GatorALLin/Other/GatorManSm.png[/IMG]
Thanks for considering… Chris
by Editor
Chris: great ideas. Re #5: As an experiment, I just turned off timing for edits and restriction on editing posts already made. These features are usually intended to disallow changing a post as a tactic to win an argument, for example.
These will require programming or new WordPress plug-ins: we’ll look into options: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6.
by GatorALLin
….that would be great if a few of these changes made it in. at least you could test a few and see what you thought worked well and remove them only if they become a distraction. I am active on a few other forums that have these tools/ideas already in use and I was able to see a huge increase in the Number of serious posters (and longer term posters or permanent members to their site) and also the number of useful info posted under each new thread. Adding a small feature like showing pictures made a bigger difference that anyone expected for example. Also the ability to get email updates to follow a post long term was critical. Anyhow, I am sure there is some programming work to be done in the background, but I hope this proves to pay off 10x in the long run. On the comment to lock the edits …yes I can see that changes could be made and then adjusted so a thread was hard to follow the original posting or an argument is lost. Maybe that is just my poor way of tossing up thoughts too fast and I need more edit time that most….(grin). Maybe while you edit you show the 5min countdown clock inside the edit box so less surprises. Or if actively editing the clock allows the last save to work? That would do the trick. (nothing more frustrating that finally getting the big edit done and a time out occurs and all changes made are lost).
One more is that you can let members flag comments also…. I think it takes flags from at least 2 different members, or you only accept flags from members with more than 50 posts or some certification process… Most members want to clean up spam type messages…… and would be unlikely to remove comments that just defeat their argument for example…so when you have serious posters this option is rarely abused. Editor of course has final say and I have not seen abuse of spam type messages here (or your already cleaning them up too fast for me to spot them) so this option seems low in the priority list IMHO. yeah there will always be a few crazy posters to any site, but not the same as someone posting malware links or buy my stuff here type of spam messages. The messages left with curse words or racial attacks would also get flagged, but I have not seen that here (CNN has a problem with those type of comments…trolls).
Anyhow.. Love the site and seems like the number of articles per week being posted up is increasing at an increasing rate… I can feel the pull of the singularity approaching…..(smiles).
by Tobomorph
Crowdsourcing a “solution” to strong AI would be neat. I am sure there are many minds that are *not* working together on this that could be.